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Self loading bear 21st May 2021 08:28


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11048484)
Its certainly not easy.................... are we in the USA?

It is bloody difficult, also for myself!
Even with registration I donít get results myself!
Pictures taken in France which I found looking for mountain soaring airports.

That also being a tough challenge!

treadigraph 21st May 2021 11:04

Cockpit reminds me of something homebuilt, maybe a few lines of DNA in it...

Asturias56 21st May 2021 15:45

Searching for this aircraft has taken me to aeroplanes I'd rather not have known ever existed.............

treadigraph 21st May 2021 16:56

It's the Colomban MC-30 that I was reminded of but engines and tail arrangement notwithstanding, the cockpit, though similar, is different!

FlightlessParrot 22nd May 2021 00:39

It does look a bit like a Cri-Cri that's taken a beating with the Ugly Stick. ? P-19 Glimmering?

Self loading bear 22nd May 2021 08:26


Originally Posted by FlightlessParrot (Post 11048876)
It does look a bit like a Cri-Cri that's taken a beating with the Ugly Stick. ? P-19 Glimmering?

Cri-Cri on steroids perhaps

Can you clarify P-19 Glimmering?
Perhaps a link?
I cannot find any aircraft under that name.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4464fc04a.jpeg
at Sisteron Airport 4 years ago

treadigraph 22nd May 2021 10:08

Typing in F-WLDE, I get pictures of Oscar Wilde...

FlightlessParrot 23rd May 2021 00:01


Originally Posted by Self loading bear (Post 11048976)
Can you clarify P-19 Glimmering?
Perhaps a link?
I cannot find any aircraft under that name.

Sorry, a contrived joke. Like a P-38 Lightning, only half the aircraft and rather dim.

FlightlessParrot 23rd May 2021 00:12

I have tried the following sites with no success:
https://www.aviafrance.com/recherche.php

http://www.antonakis.co.uk/registers/France.txt

https://immat.aviation-civile.gouv.f...ef_liste.html#

I think I saw somewhere that F-Wxxx is for prototypes, but with numerals following the W.

Not merely a prototype, but pseudonymous? The ultimate spy plane?



Asturias56 23rd May 2021 07:04

This is the hardest challenge of my time on here :ouch: - all sorts of weird aircraft turn up but nothing quite like the challenge - the Cri-Cri is probably closest but still nothing like this horror

I have to ask - did it really fly?

l.garey 23rd May 2021 07:57

"I think I saw somewhere that F-Wxxx is for prototypes, but with numerals following the W."

Flightless Parrot: F-Wxxx is used for flight testing, after which the registration reverts to a "normal" sequence, but still keeping the last three. So we need to see if there is a regular registration (eg: F-BLDE or others, but that was a Jodel). I've looked but find nothing.

What a challenge!

Laurence

treadigraph 23rd May 2021 08:00

As it appears to be a homebuilt, I looked for F-PLDE. Naught, not even on DGAC register. Perhaps it was a prop for a film or something.

Self loading bear 23rd May 2021 09:49

Thank you all for your suggestions and clarifications.
This might become unsolvable.

Did it Fly?
I guess so

P19 Glimmering is the best suggestion so far!
I was thinking about the Cri-Cri Obesity.

I have send an email to the Sisteron soaring club if they can find it in their visitors logs.

Has anyone explored the search path of the engines?
I think it are no diesels but Hirth 3702.
Hirth

Self loading bear 23rd May 2021 09:56

This is the link to Google Maps sisteron, where you can find the photos.

Google maps

FlightlessParrot 23rd May 2021 10:02

The French government site allows searching with a wildcard, so I've done F-%LDE and come up with nothing appropriate (on that site, % is the wildcard character).

Aerodrome Sisteron is the site of two companies into electric flight. Electravia provided the batteries for a Cri-Cri that flew the Channel/Manche. E-props makes propellers optimised for electric powered aircraft; two firms with splendidly transparent names, but a Google search produces no images that look anything like this creature. Anyway, our object seems to have upward pointing exhaust stacks, apparently six per nacelle. Is that plausible?

EDITED: I wrote this before seeing the engine identified: they're intakes, if it is the Hirth, which looks likely.

Self loading bear 24th May 2021 17:41

With no new reactions or suggestions posted for 1 day, I think we have to acknowledge our defeat.
I am in contact with the aeroclub in Sisteron. When they might come forward with additional info I will of course let you know.

Sadly I have to declare OH.

Asturias56 24th May 2021 17:57

Jeez!! I thought YOU knew Bear...............................

It's defeated us all................... :(

DownWest 24th May 2021 21:07

Props looked like Warp-drives. Had one on the Rotax 912 powered Merlin GT.

meleagertoo 25th May 2021 11:30

They don't feather, do they? That thing'd flip on it's back like a Liverpool virgin if an engine stopped!

DownWest 25th May 2021 18:22

No, Ground adjustable pitch only.


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