LAC Raymond Gumley
I’m trying to find out what happened to LAC Raymond Gumley. He died on the 30th April 1943 and is now buried in Cambridge City Cemetery. He has a private headstone which makes no reference to his Service. He is listed on Aircrew Remembered website but I thought by 1943 all aircrew were NCO’s or Officers. This is a long shot but does anybody have a lead on this? Regards, Scotty |
Trainee pilot/aircrew ? - they usually had the rank of LAC
|
Originally Posted by longer ron
(Post 10569868)
Trainee pilot/aircrew ? - they usually had the rank of LAC
he was married to a lady called Kathleen Ellen Pryke. Pryke was not her Maiden name. She was previously married to Peter B F Pryke (Pilot) who was killed in Wellington accident at RAF Bassingbourn in 1940. They had only been married a few months. She the married Raymond and, again, was only married a few months before he died. Absolutely tragic. Both the airmen are buried in Cambridge City Cemetery. Regards, Scotty |
Could also have been an air gunner or a WOp/AG. Whilst most (all?) fairly quickly achieved Sgt rank (at least) they certainly flew as LACs.
|
Which is why I said trainee pilot/aircrew Teeters - from approx June 1940 all aircrew were given the rank of Sgt - so by 1943 the only LAC Aircrew 'should' have been U/T Pilots/Aircrew.
|
Surprised not CWGC d(s). Maybe families preferred their own RiP whatever the case
|
Service Number 926961 |
I believe RAFCommands traced his death in Cambridge District records as GumEEY, and a Raymond Gumley birth in 1916.
430430 - Unaccounted airmen - 30-4-1943 There were a number of RAF bases around Cambridge, so perhaps not a flying accident, but illness or accident, such as RTA? Ground crew aren't usually shown as being affiliated to any specific Squadron, which may explain lack of any Unit details. Could this be his father? GUMLEY, ARTHUR. Corporal. Service Number 2358. Died 11/06/1915. Aged 23 1st/4th Bn. Leicestershire Regiment Husband of Eva Gumley, of 105, Thrumpton Lane, Retford, Nottingham. Buried at WIMEREUX COMMUNAL CEMETERY. Plot I. Row I. Grave 28A. (birth would need to be 1st Qtr 1916). Possibly? Raymond Gumley. Birth Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar 1916 Registration District: Leicester, Leicestershire, Mother's Maiden Name: Dakin. Volume:7A Page 440. You say that Kathleen Pryke remarried shortly after the death of her previous husband - so could this be related? Name: Kathleen A Gumley. Birth Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec 1941 Leicester, Leicestershire. Mother's Maiden Name: Brown. Volume: 7A. Page: 511 PRYKE, PETER BERRY FAIRWEATHER. Sergeant (Pilot). Service Number 741959 Died 13/08/1940 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve Name: Peter Berry Fairweather PRYKE Father: Sidney Nicholas PRYKE (1870-1946) Mother: Amelia Lily FAIRWEATHER (1871-1952) Birth 1914 Thetford District Death 13 Aug 1940 (age 25-26) Cambridge, Cambridgeshire Died in war service. Effects to widow Kathleen Ellen Pryke Commemorated on St Lukes, Cambridge War Memorial Roll of Honour WW2 AIR81/2587 Flying Officer F A H Lambart, Sergeant D O Rewa, Sergeant H H Boulter, Sergeant P Pryke, Sergeant S Robinson, Sergeant D L Jones: killed; Sergeant P G Marsh: injured; aircraft accident, Bassingbourn, Wellington L4387, 11 Operational Training Unit, 13 August 1940. Reason for Loss, Swung out of control and hit another 11 OTU aircraft (Wellington I L4286) and a photo of L4387 https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ject/205208425 |
PN: You misunderstand
Kathleen A Gumley MAY be the CHILD of Gumley and the widow Kathleen E Pryke..... but until OP clarifies we're none the wiser. |
Originally Posted by Icare9
(Post 10571276)
PN: You misunderstand
Kathleen A Gumley MAY be the CHILD of Gumley and the widow Kathleen E Pryke..... but until OP clarifies we're none the wiser. You need to look for a Kathleen Ellen Brown in the 1939 register, this may well have the two husband's names updating her surname. I would look but my subscription has lapsed. Son of Horace and Elsie Mary Gumley; husband of Kathleen Ellen Gumley, of Cambridge |
Son of Horace and Elsie Mary Gumley 15 all? |
Originally Posted by madcat11
(Post 10569847)
I’m trying to find out what happened to LAC Raymond Gumley. He died on the 30th April 1943 and is now buried in Cambridge City Cemetery. He has a private headstone which makes no reference to his Service. He is listed on Aircrew Remembered website but I thought by 1943 all aircrew were NCO’s or Officers. This is a long shot but does anybody have a lead on this? Regards, Scotty |
At Malcolm Barrass' fine Air of Authority site, the members area includes detailed casualty lists by date
For 926961 LAC Raymond Gumley, his 30 Apr 1943 death is recorded as follows "He had been medically discharged when he died from natural causes in Papworth Hospital, Cambridge. He is buried in Cambridge City Cemetery." Added note to RAF Commands db entry etc |
All times are GMT. The time now is 21:52. |
Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.