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Tempsford 14th Jul 2019 10:22

Britannia Throttle Levers
 
Can anyone please advise as to why the throttle levers on the Brit have different coloured knobs. On the Brits I have seen 1&2 are the same colour with 3&4 being another colour. Any guidance from ex Brit crews is gratefully appreciated.
Temps

sycamore 14th Jul 2019 10:37

Let`s guess,red for 1 & 2,green for 3 & 4,same as your socks should be...

dook 14th Jul 2019 10:46

You might care to try the Bristol Britannia Preservation Society, although they are preserving one aircraft only.

However, I'm sure that team must have some Britannia experts on board.

The AvgasDinosaur 14th Jul 2019 13:37

It might be a Bristol option as Instone’s B.170s were similarly equipped, though only one of each colour😂
G-BISU and G-AMLK (2nd) as I recall. To avoid confusion ‘SU was silver overall and ‘LK was white overall.
Hope it helps
Be lucky
David

Cornish Jack 14th Jul 2019 13:51

It avoids pilots having to write LEFT and RIGHT on the backs of their hands!!:)

sycamore 14th Jul 2019 15:44

CJ, on the gloves ,dear boy.....!..heaven forbid,sweaty hands on throttles.....!!

Fareastdriver 14th Jul 2019 18:45

You never know what you might catch.

Herod 14th Jul 2019 18:53

It's because co-pilots can't count. "Shut down number three" would create confusion, whereas "shut down the left-hand green one" would be understood.

Blossy 14th Jul 2019 20:27

Sounds logical to me...….

JW411 15th Jul 2019 12:03

I asked two ex-Britannia captains about multi-coloured throttles this morning and I got two blank stares. "I thought they were all black" was the response.

sycamore 15th Jul 2019 13:01

Perhaps if the OP said which colours we are talking about,it may be helpful...
edit; having just looked at a few cockpit photos,it seems that 1 & 2 were yellow,,3 & 4 were green;others were all yellow ,or a mix of black yellow and green.......!!!!

eckhard 15th Jul 2019 17:23

Maybe the colours indicated which hydraulic system was powered by that engine-driven pump?

Howard Hughes’ “Spruce Goose” has eight throttles, labelled from 1 to 7 as EHEHHHE and number 8 is blank.
The letters indicate whether that engine runs an electrical generator or a hydraulic pump. Number 8 had it easy!

Wander00 15th Jul 2019 18:01

A book I have (Specialist Aircrew) says that the pilots in the Britannia did not manage the thrust levers, they were handled by the FE, in the RAF anyway

browndhc2 16th Jul 2019 13:43

I don't claim to by a Britannia expert and sadly have no operational; experience of the type but have the following observations to offer which whilst they do not answer the OP's question may add to the intrigue.

It appears that The Original Britannia 102 and the latter 312 and RAF aircraft had flat-topped Throttles the handles being covered in a hard coloured bakelite material, Yellow for Engines 1&2 and Green for Engines 3 and 4.Later export models of the Britannia with side facing Engineers station had rounded tops to the controls which were a uniform colour.

I've consulted Two Airlines Brit technical (312/308) Bristol 300 Series crew notes and the RAF Crews notes AP and found no mention as to why the throttles were colour coded.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a0b2a36cc7.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9a8bafcdf8.jpg
Could it have been something to do with the installation and wiring process as the early type leavers are handed?

Lancman 17th Jul 2019 06:37

From memory; RAF Britannias had identical black knobs on all the thrust levers.

brakedwell 18th Jul 2019 16:32


Originally Posted by JW411 (Post 10519074)
I asked two ex-Britannia captains about multi-coloured throttles this morning and I got two blank stares. "I thought they were all black" was the response.

I will give you the third blank stare Jock, after ten years on the Brit. Eight years RAF, two years civil.

Tempsford 18th Jul 2019 20:06

Thank you for your feedback folks. I worked on military and civil Britannias and noted the permutations of the colours of throttle lever knobs. It always puzzled me and still does. Hopefully there is an ex Bristol/Shorts production person who has access to PPrune who may be able to cast some light on this.

ARCHIE1 19th Jul 2019 10:36

Throttle Lever Colours
 
This may not answer the question fully but, as a member of the team preserving XM496 at Kemble, my answer when asked by visitors why the throttles are topped with different colours, is usually that red for port and green for starboard would be logical but red levers and red lights on a flight deck are often for emergency use or are warning indications so the manufacturer presumably chose yellow for numbers 1 and 2 as a safer alternative. I may be wrong, in fact as Britannia aircrew from 50 plus years ago, I can't remember for certain what colours the levers were originally and the manuals are all in black and white!

Tempsford 19th Jul 2019 19:46

Thank you, you may well be right.


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