Thanks, nonsense! I stand corrected and am glad that his genius still resides contemporaneously!

- Ed :ok:

He didn't run the camp or the factory, and similar slave labor camps and factories were used throughout the German war effort. Should Ferdinand Porsche have been tried of war crimes as well, since many of his tanks were built at least in part by concentration camp labor?

Yes, indeed he should!

Seconded, as should many others

"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down That's not my department," says Wernher von Braun

The USA continued to work on air-launching ( literal ) copies of the V-1, built by Willys as the JB-2 Loon and dropped from B-17s in tests. Tens of thousands were planned for the invasion of Japan, to be air-launched and also rocket-launched from decks of submarines.

Of course orders were slashed after VJ-Day but those that were built continued as testbeds until the 1950s.

And of course the SCUD (with which some of us slightly younger brethren are more familiar) had much of its inner workings derived from the earlier SCUNNER which was pretty much a copy of the V2/A4.

As we used to say in the early days of the Space Race, it's not that the Russians (at that time) were better than the Americans, but that the Russian's Germans were better than the American's Germans!

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Just finished (the ebook version of) Target London. Highly recommended.

Absolutely correct , including some papers on how this work on malnourished subjects could be read across to predict for fit individuals.

Back in the sixties we RAF trainees were shown old German films where prisoners in camp uniforms demonstrated the effects of oxygen denial.

Fareastdriver wrote: Back in the sixties we RAF trainees were shown old German films where prisoners in camp uniforms demonstrated the effects of oxygen denial.

And as a trainee in the fifties also.

It was more along the line of the Soviet's nukes were much larger. Because their nukes were larger/heavier, they needed to develop larger/heavier lift rockets for their nukes - which ended up being more suitable to putting stuff into orbit.
Adding to that was an initial desire by the Eisenhower administration to use other than military derived rockets.

FED - don't recall that at all. Remember the Canadian first aid film though -

tracer Of course that's true, but I'm not sure it was public knowledge in '57 when Sputnik 1 launched.

At least it wasn't known by the space-obsessed 8 year old Young Teeters! (Who still has his East German Sputnik stamps!)
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Wander00. Usually after lunch, in a stuffy, airless room.

It is true that those who heard the V1 never forgot the sound any more than they did the Air Raid Warning siren. My mother spoke about this till her last year (aged 90) I knew that if I had played a recording of such she would be very unhappy.

I recall a woman telling me, "We were catching a bus in North London and, as we approached The Dominion and got off, we heard a V1. So we ran across the road and jumped on another bus going the other way!"

My paternal grandparents were killed by a V2 that landed in the back garden of their house 2nd November 1944. They were in Ashford (Middx) if you go due North from their house, you reach EGLL Cargo centre in 1.8 miles. So the rocket had completely crossed London and was far out the other side. My father, then in 141 Sq on Night Fighters attacked Peenemünde a couple of times.

The British were using a misinformation campaign to convince the Germans that their V2 targeting was off - which apparently worked and the Germans adjusted their targeting such that most of the later V2s missed London. Sounds like your grandparents were unfortunate victims of the success of that misinformation.

Missed Central London would be more accurate. SE and E London didn't do so well, nor did North Kent.

Here's a map of V2 hits.....


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2650715f80.jpg

For comparison and completeness, here's the best image I could find of V1 hits. Less easy to read but there still seems to be a bias to the SE. You will see in all cases (and maybe the V2 also?) the aiming point was Tower Bridge (which seems to have escaped!)


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On a similar take I think it was TVs The World at War in its commentary stating that of bombs dropped by Bomber Command up to c.1942, only some 5 or less in every 100 would fall within 5 miles of the target. Regarding V1's I will always remember the the noise that sounded like a motor cycle without a silencer as a small sinister black aircraft flew over our house at about 400 ft. Within a few days of the V1 offensive many of the schoolchildren in Wallington were evacuated to districts near Birmingham.