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BLUE SKY THINKER 22nd Apr 2019 11:07

“The Secret of Flight 149” by Stephen Davis
 
Can anyone suggest where I might obtain a copy of this book?

I have (extensively) exhausted all internet options.

Thanks.

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El Bunto 22nd Apr 2019 15:57

Ah... that's going to be hard to get.

The author is on Linked In, you could drop him a line and see if he has a spare copy or PDF. At this point he'd probably be keen on just getting the story out.

Alternatively set an alert on ABE Books but it'll probably be a long, long wait.

India Four Two 22nd Apr 2019 16:18

Would anyone care to let me in on the "secret"? :)

Newforest2 22nd Apr 2019 18:04

https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Flight-149-Saddams-Shields-ebook/dp/B005KMV94Y

Not hard!

Mike6567 22nd Apr 2019 18:31

"This title is not currently available for purchase"

I have always ben interested in this but never had much luck in finding books or Articles by people who were "guests" of Sadam

Is this because of NDAs?

BLUE SKY THINKER 22nd Apr 2019 20:20


Originally Posted by Newforest2 (Post 10453342)

Hmm, if only...

Quemerford 22nd Apr 2019 20:38

Very interesting: Amazon kind of spoils the plot but it would be interesting to know how it played out.

Planemike 22nd Apr 2019 20:56


Originally Posted by Mike6567 (Post 10453355)
"This title is not currently available for purchase"

I have always ben interested in this but never had much luck in finding books or Articles by people who were "guests" of Sadam

Is this because of NDAs?

Surely, he is not around to enforce an NDA.....??!!!

megan 23rd Apr 2019 01:23


BLUE SKY THINKER 23rd Apr 2019 05:41

To anyone who has had their interest sparked by this thread, I have today communicated with Stephen Davis, who advises that there was a “powers that be” element to the scarcity of his book (!).

However, in a somewhat amazing coincidence, he advises that there is an update to the story in his latest book, just published in the UK, Australia & New Zealand (USA & Canada in May):


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The following link from Quist Solicitors in London, relating to the book and BA149 might also be of interest:


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https://www.quistlaw.com/news-posts/...ry-continues1/

Bergerie1 28th Apr 2019 04:47

I also have a personal interest in this story, but I do not believe the conspiracy theories. This is what I posted in 2017:-
https://www.pprune.org/aviation-hist...ml#post9698657

And read what KelvinD posted here:-
https://www.pprune.org/aviation-hist...49#post9695939
and here:-
https://www.pprune.org/aviation-hist...49#post9696468
and again here:-
https://www.pprune.org/aviation-hist...49#post9698167

He does know what he is talking about.

DaveReidUK 28th Apr 2019 09:30

As a general rule, when the two possible explanations for something are either a conspiracy or a c*ck-up, it's almost always the latter. :O

Mike6567 18th Jul 2021 10:40

I see there is another book by Stephen Davis with a write up in the Mail on Sunday - "Operation Trojan Horse"

I now notice KelvinD has been banned since this discussion started. Strange?

beamender99 23rd Nov 2021 16:38

UK admits it did not warn Kuwait hostage flight
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59388975

25F 23rd Nov 2021 22:45

I completely agree with "when the two possible explanations for something are either a conspiracy or a c*ck-up, it's almost always the latter".
But when there are numerous reports from both passengers and cabin crew that a number (ten, by most accounts) of young men were taken off the aircraft before anyone else, it starts to look like the c*ck-up was thinking that they could get the aircraft out again before the Iraqis arrived.
The second c*ck-up is pretending it didn't happen.
Passenger quote

Who on earth were they, then? Members of a rugby team?
“These were serious guys, you only had to look at them.
“I’m absolutely gobsmacked. I know what I saw going on with that plane. I know they were soldiers.”
This is not a "conspiracy theory". It's a valid conjecture. What would *you* do given one last chance to get some surveillance on the ground?


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