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madcat11 15th Feb 2019 15:31

Frederick Connell
 
Hello All,
I’m researching an Engineer from The Air Ministry who passed away on 15th Aug 1944. His name is Frederick William Thomas Griffin Connell, or words to that effect. CWGC has him registered as buried in Newmarket District but I have seen a headstone with his name on it in CambridgeCity Cemetery. From what I’ve uncovered so far, he may have died in an air crash at Warbraham Farm, Heath Road, Burwell, Cambs. Question is this: Why does CWGC have him buried in Newmarket? What were the circumstances surrounding the crash.
All help gratefully received!
Thankyou.

DaveReidUK 15th Feb 2019 16:03


Originally Posted by madcat11 (Post 10390957)
Hello All,
I’m researching an Engineer from The Air Ministry who passed away on 15th Aug 1944. His name is Frederick William Thomas Griffin Connell, or words to that effect. CWGC has him registered as buried in Newmarket District but I have seen a headstone with his name on it in CambridgeCity Cemetery. From what I’ve uncovered so far, he may have died in an air crash at Warbraham Farm, Heath Road, Burwell, Cambs. Question is this: Why does CWGC have him buried in Newmarket? What were the circumstances surrounding the crash.
All help gratefully received!
Thankyou.

Those sound like the circumstances of the accident to Oxford L4635, which dived into the ground after an engine caught fire on approach to RAF Newmarket (just SE of Warbraham Mains Farm) on that date.

madcat11 15th Feb 2019 16:09


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10390982)
Those sound like the circumstances of the accident to Oxford L4635, which dived into the ground after an engine caught fire on approach to RAF Newmarket (just SE of Warbraham Mains Farm) on that date.

Thanks for the info. Do you know who was onboard?

DaveReidUK 15th Feb 2019 16:14

Group Captain Anthony Oliver Moleswoth of the Metropolitan Communications Squadron.

Interestingly, he is buried in Cambridge City Cemetery, according to the CWGC.

madcat11 15th Feb 2019 16:21


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10390988)
Group Captain Anthony Oliver Moleswoth of the Metropolitan Communications Squadron.

Interestingly, he is buried in Cambridge City Cemetery, according to the CWGC.

I will have a look next week and see if I can find him. Mr Connell was from the Ministry of Aircraft Production and not the Air Ministry as I previously stated.

DaveReidUK 15th Feb 2019 17:23

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2bbf523e8c.jpg

https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/1946_I...rs:_Obituaries

madcat11 15th Feb 2019 17:54

That’s what I found too. Why was he going to Newmarket? Why does the evidence suggest the Gp Capt was alone on the Oxford?

Icare9 21st Sep 2019 13:08

madcat11: Have you found anything further?
You may have found
Airspeed AS.10 Oxford Mk.I L4635 of the Metropolitan Comms Squadron, RAF was written off (destroyed) 15 August 1944 when it crashed on approach to RAF Newmarket, Suffolk: On final approach to RAF Newmarket, an engine caught fire. The pilot lost control of the aircraft and it crashed in flames, short of the runway. The aircraft was destroyed by impact forces and post crash fire and the sole occupant was killed. https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/16168
However, it is possible that Thomas Connell was aboard, as it would be possible for a Principal Technical Officer to hitch a lift, or be on board for technical purposes.
The accident is pretty well documented, however, so I don't see them missing the body of a passenger, but the circumstantial evidence certainly appears to link him to the accident site.
Two deaths in Bramwell on one day and NOT related must be unusual.
Crew of Oxford L4635: Group Captain Anthony Oliver Molesworth - killed. Cause of crash: Engine fire.
The RAF station known as "RAF Newmarket" was actually a grass airstrip on Newmarket's Rowley Mile Racecourse. This air strip is still used by light aircraft today.

CWGC record Civilian Deaths under the Reporting District in which they died. Families could then arrange funerals in their home town or wherever they crashed, depending on circumstances, so not having the burial details isn't strange for civilian deaths.

As to why he was going to Newmarket, we'll probably never know, but the area was chock full of airfields so as Principal Technical Officer he could be investigating a problem or involved in research at any one of them. Hope that helps

madcat11 12th Dec 2019 18:53

Actually there was probably 3.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/c...george-albert/

chevvron 12th Dec 2019 19:47

I seem to recall several 'first flights' of new types took place from Newmarket due to its long areas of level grass, one type being the prototype Meteors.
This might explain why Connell and the Gp Capt were going there.

treadigraph 13th Dec 2019 06:00

Meteor first flew from Cranwell I believe?

Allan Lupton 13th Dec 2019 08:02


Originally Posted by treadigraph (Post 10638712)
Meteor first flew from Cranwell I believe?

as had E28/39 before it.

chevvron 13th Dec 2019 14:51


Originally Posted by treadigraph (Post 10638712)
Meteor first flew from Cranwell I believe?

But it did 'fast taxy runs' at Newmarket first (DG 202/G now in the RAF Museum) and I seem to recall another type (the name of which escapes me) as being trucked to Newmarket for its first flight.


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