1934 Russian Aircraft at Moscow
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Can anyone identify the two aircraft in the foreground - the 4-engine and the tri-motor? Sent this to Janes many years back (particularly was curious about the tri-motor) and they couldn't identify tri-motor. There is a TB-3 in the background and it just doesn't look quite the same as the 4-engine aircraft facing the camera which appears to be undergoing maintenance - can't see props or engines really.
Just noticed what looks like a prop on the nose of the aircraft? Cheers Attachment 5242 |
the one on the right is a twin engined Tupelov ATN-37 I think
the large one could be a TB4/ANT-6 or an ANT 16 but in the latter case it should have an engine mounted above the fuselage as well (!!!) |
Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry
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the one on the right is a twin engined Tupelov ATN-37 I think
the large one could be a TB4/ANT-6 or an ANT 16 but in the latter case it should have an engine mounted above the fuselage as well (!!!) The frontal view looks like the Fokker XXXVI but that first flew in 1934. However very unlikely and I am sure it wouldn't have been undergoing maintenance out in the open in Moscow. |
Hi Mel,
If you zoom in on the image, a fifth engine can be seen on the nose with its prop neatly parked horizontally like the other four, so I'm sure you're correct and it is an Tupolev ANT-14 Pravda :D Edited to say: Just noticed a comment added by b1lank to original post "Just noticed what looks like a prop on the nose of the aircraft?" A thought on the Trimotor at right, while agreeing that an ANT-9 is a likely candidate, didn't they all have two-bladed props? This one clearly has three-bladed, so how about a PZL.4 which had them as standard and also fits in the time-frame! |
Originally Posted by SincoTC
(Post 10158993)
Hi Mel,
If you zoom in on the image, a fifth engine can be seen on the nose with its prop neatly parked horizontally like the other four, so I'm sure you're correct and it is an Tupolev ANT-14 Pravda :D Edited to say: Just noticed a comment added by b1lank to original post "Just noticed what looks like a prop on the nose of the aircraft?" A thought on the Trimotor at right, while agreeing that an ANT-9 is a likely candidate, didn't they all have two-bladed props? This one clearly has three-bladed, so how about a PZL.4 which had them as standard and also fits in the time-frame! |
Is the high winged single engined aircraft on the left a Kalinin K-5?
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Hi again Mel,
Originally Posted by MReyn24050
(Post 10159070)
Hi. Thanks for that, when I zoomed the photograph it was not clear but fuzzy and I was not sure if it was a prop or an imperfection. Regarding the Trimotor in Bill Gunston's book "Tupolev Aircraft since 1922" there is a photograph of the prototype ANT-8 after being fitted with Wright Whirlwind J-6 engines and three bladed Hamilton propellers.He goes on to write "Conversion began in 1933 and by 1934 most re-engined aircraft also had Townsend ring cowls.".
Thanks for the info and I think you're also correct regarding the high winged single engined aircraft on the left as being a Kalinin K-5 Regards, Trevor |
Thanks for the replies and clarifications. The three-bladed props always got me and I had not seen Gunston's book. This has been a curiosity since my mother first showed me the photograph 60 years ago. I hit the local library and the school library but of course no success (hard to even find any book on aircraft back then in either library).
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