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Bonkey 26th May 2018 10:12

Any Older Jet Engines Still Airborne?
 
Are any of the early generation jet engines still flying on anything? So am thinking Olympus, Conway or Spey?

Presumably the last Olympus powered plane was the historic Vulcan and Conway would have been the RAF VC10s....both types now grounded in the last 3 years. But any Spey powered frames still flying...either civil or military?

treadigraph 26th May 2018 10:17

Still some Gulfstream IIs and IIIs flying I believe.

Rocket Pants 26th May 2018 11:11

The Italian/Brazilian AMX is powered by the Spey if I remember rightly?

BEagle 26th May 2018 11:25

Spey? Pah - a youngster! Martin-Baker's 2 Meteors Mk7/8 are still flying, powered by a brace each of RR Derwents!

Rocket Pants 26th May 2018 11:32

How about the Chinese Xian JH7 - it uses a licence built RR Spey? Is there an airworthy BAC111 or F28 anywhere? Plenty of 1950's British "warbirds" still flying too.

Fareastdriver 26th May 2018 12:09

The Puma 330 helicopter is still flying in commercial service. The Turmo engines that powers that was originally designed to power French express locomotives in the fifties.

DaveReidUK 26th May 2018 12:25

The DH Goblin, first run in 1942 (a year before the Derwent), is still flying on a handful of airworthy Vampires.

Kiwithrottlejockey 27th May 2018 00:11

In New Zealand, two Vampires are flying with DH Goblin engines, as well as a Venom with a DH Ghost engine.

India Four Two 27th May 2018 04:46

It's interesting that the Venom and Vampire have engines made by the airframe manufacturer. Are there any other manufacturers who produced engines?

rog747 27th May 2018 05:19

JT's 707-138B with JT3B's may do one more flight to a museum

Meridiana still use MD80s' with JT8's and a couple of old baby dc9's still fly in East Africa

Liffy 1M 27th May 2018 05:29

Two BAC 1-11s are still flying as testbeds.

rotorfossil 27th May 2018 05:40

Turbomeca engines in Gazelles and Lamas are pretty elderly turboshaft technology also Rolls Royce (originally Blackburn) engines in Scouts/Wasps still flying.

Heathrow Harry 27th May 2018 07:25

F-28's used the Spey and they're still around

Bonkey 27th May 2018 07:54


Originally Posted by India Four Two (Post 10157856)
It's interesting that the Venom and Vampire have engines made by the airframe manufacturer. Are there any other manufacturers who produced engines?

Bristol were an airframer and originally made the Olympus and Pegasus (OK, Bristol-Siddeley) - but not sure either of these flew in any of their own aircraft.

76fan 27th May 2018 08:17

Airframe and engines ?

de Havilland ..... airframes, engines, propellers, and the Blue Streak rocket ....

Allan Lupton 27th May 2018 08:24


Originally Posted by India Four Two (Post 10157856)
It's interesting that the Venom and Vampire have engines made by the airframe manufacturer. Are there any other manufacturers who produced engines?

Bristol is the other obvious producer of both airframes and engines in the UK and one could list Junkers in Germany, Fiat in Italy and Wright and Curtiss in the USofA

DaveReidUK 27th May 2018 08:24


Originally Posted by Bonkey (Post 10157946)
Bristol were an airframer and originally made the Olympus and Pegasus (OK, Bristol-Siddeley) - but not sure either of these flew in any of their own aircraft.

Indeed not, but now that the thread seems to have drifted into turboshafts and turboprops, Bristol's Proteus certainly did power a Bristol aircraft.

Wander00 27th May 2018 08:55

Must be some Avons flying in Hunters

Kiwithrottlejockey 27th May 2018 09:27


Originally Posted by India Four Two (Post 10157856)
It's interesting that the Venom and Vampire have engines made by the airframe manufacturer. Are there any other manufacturers who produced engines?

Bristol produced both airframes and engines.

For example, the Bristol B.170 Freighter powered by Bristol Hercules engines.

thetimesreader84 27th May 2018 10:50

C130 (not -J) uses the Allison engine, dates back to the 50s.

I heard the core core of the IAE v2500 is the same as a JT-8, if that counts?

and not airborne, but a lot of the Jets you are asking about (Conway, Olympus) are still used in marine / ground applications, for power generation or marine propulsion.


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