Slightly off thread - my apologies.
Was having a discussion with a colleague recently about how much cheaper in real terms long haul is these days. So what would the sort of transatlantic flight of which we speak have cost in 1972 £GBP? |
Not really an answer to your question, but perhaps it helps. On a ticket for a return flight from London to the Solomon Islands, in 1966, the full price is given as £839.8-0 with £418.6-0 as the price for the return leg. The route for this is listed as HIR-VLI-NAN-LON, which includes a transatlantic (or transpacific) bit of course.
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Thanks Jhieminga
in 1966, the full price is given as £839.8-0 with £418.6-0 as the price for the return leg. |
Originally Posted by Goldencane
(Post 10039292)
The 707/VC10 swap for cabin crew in Syd was late sixties, early seventies. I did this RTW twice as pax.
QF start their PER, LHR non stop in a couple of months, how things have changed. |
Surely the Super VC10 had the range to fly LHR - LAX nonstop, yes?
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Originally Posted by bols59
(Post 11195279)
Surely the Super VC10 had the range to fly LHR - LAX nonstop, yes?
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VC10 were not great on range, my very first ever flight LHR-Barbados ( staff travel subload) in Nov 1971 turned into LHR-JFK JFK Barbados because us subloads were bumped due to the SV10 being unable to make the trip due to Winter winds something that was not uncommon apparently . Barbados is almost exactly 4100 miles from LHR so no margin for winds and back then the alternate would have had to be Port of Spain another couple of hundred miles further I think the VC10 struggled to make Bermuda at times since there is no real alternate for Bermuda except JFK which is another 750 odd miles on top of the 3400 LON-BDA trip often requiring a long northward diversion in the winter due to 'winds aloft (a lovely phrase) and the risk that in winter Bermudas common Sw Gales are a challenge with the runway facing NW .. Which leads me to wonder which would be better in a cross wind the 70' or the VC10.
The VC10 especially the Super was a lovely aircraft as pax and I have clear and lovely memories of walking out and up the steps on a hot steamy night on some relatively small ex colonial airfield towards a VC10 bathed in the flood lights tail lit up ready to take me back to the grey skies of LHR . What it wasnt good at was range and once the 'fanjet' 707s and DC8s came along it was seriously lacking in range and thus flexibility on BOAC/BAs very extensive route . Fine for LHR to the Gulf ,Eastern seaboard but that's all it could do reliably. The African trips were mostly mulit stoppers . (I did LHR- Cyprus-Khartoum-Addis Seychelles once) On the other hand it (and perhaps the 707 occasionally) operated the amazing LHR-JFK- LAX-Honolulu-Fiji -NZ-SyD referred to above and the even more exotic Tokyo-HK-Colombo-Seychelles Mauritius (?) - Joburg , which involved some complex schedule juggling to get the actual plane back to LHR. Convenient as the ultra long range non stops are they do lack a certain mystique compared to the multi stoppers which must have been terrific trips for the crews PB |
Originally Posted by swavesey
(Post 10029707)
Can anyone tell me about BA flights between Heathrow and LAX during the summers of 1972 and 1973? What planes would they have used?
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In 1971, the LHR to LAX service used a VC10 but it made a stop in New York along the way. It wasn't a non-stop sector. See: http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...71/ba71-13.jpg
I also had a look at an ex-VC10 Captain's logbook and whenever Los Angeles turned up in his log during the early 70s, it was a flight to or from New York. |
Originally Posted by 707AF
(Post 11414559)
. Although I still believe an only 707-436 could have flown LHR LAX Nonstop.
many thanks your answers |
Originally Posted by pax britanica
(Post 11195596)
the even more exotic Tokyo-HK-Colombo-Seychelles Mauritius (?) - Joburg , which involved some complex schedule juggling to get the actual plane back to LHR.
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Originally Posted by 707AF
(Post 11414922)
yes I hope so . Anyway BA shedulled 707 LHR LAX LHR NSTP by 1962 (same source old time table image) . It only could have been 707-436 due to the fact the -336C was not existing and were introduced into BA network by 1965 .
many thanks your answers |
Originally Posted by bean
(Post 11415459)
The 707s tech stopped at Winnipeg. Even 320s couldn''t always make it non stop
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