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DaveReidUK 30th Jul 2014 18:54


Still, nobody has answered the important question. How fast would it have gone?
Cruise would have been around 430kts, pretty much the same as the 146 and a bit slower than the F-28.

evansb 30th Jul 2014 20:36

Here is a link regarding the Fokker F.26 Phantom: Fokker F26 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://up-ship.com/blog/wp-content/u...26-phantom.jpg

ruddman 30th Jul 2014 22:56

The F.26 Phantom. Even the name exudes sleekness, comfort and superiority over everything else. Amazing.

Even more amazing is Fokkers futuristic plan at that stage to put a desktop computer behind the pilot so passengers could check their emails in flight. Very impressive.

India Four Two 31st Jul 2014 01:24

ruddman,


I thought the same thing, but I don't see any satcom antennae, so maybe it's just a local network?


Dutch designers obviously don't travel with much luggage and looking at the layout, I don't think I would want to be in rows 1 or 2 if a turbine disk lets go!

DaveReidUK 31st Jul 2014 06:58

Here is a link regarding the Fokker. F.26 Phantom: Fokker F26 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Good old Wikipedia:

"Powerplant: 2 × Rolls-Royce RB.41 Nene centrifugal compressor turbojet, 46 kN (10,000 lbf) thrust each" :ugh:

joy ride 31st Jul 2014 07:32

I had not heard of the F26, fascinating looking machine, at first I assumed it was a Boeing. Presumably it was conceived as a tail dragger.
The front view does look a little, er, like it has breasts!

Stanwell 31st Jul 2014 16:25

Fokker F26
 
evansb,


Thanks for the extra illustration and link. I hadn't heard of it before.


Now, if that engine configuration resembles breasts, then rear-engine craft must be sporting gonads!

FlightlessParrot 1st Aug 2014 04:44


Good old Wikipedia:

"Powerplant: 2 × Rolls-Royce RB.41 Nene centrifugal compressor turbojet, 46 kN (10,000 lbf) thrust each"
And also, in the Design section, it quoted the thrust as 2.3 kN. The problem with the Powerplant section is that there is a terse data entry format, and someone misunderstood and put total thrust, instead of thrust per engine (total power is, I believe, the nautical convention). So, I corrected it. Yes, good old Wikipedia, but one can do something about its errors.

evansb 1st Aug 2014 20:17

Yes indeed! Correcting errors is honorable. A moral imperative.

Confucius say, "To make a mistake is an error. Failure to correct a mistake is another error".

evansb 1st Aug 2014 20:42

Canada's mid-century airliner swan song: http://www.argc-art.com/shop/image/d...20Jetliner.jpg

Stanwell 1st Aug 2014 20:54

Ah yes, the Avro Canada C102 Jetliner of '48/'49.
I believe it exceeded 500mph and had a good deal more potential than the DH Comet.


Another sacrifice on the altar of political expediency?




p.s. What a beautiful painting!

evansb 1st Aug 2014 21:18

No buyers. Regardless of several speed/category records, even Howard Hughes, (who actually flew the AVRO Jetliner), didn't buy it.

The design was too Canadian, meaning "Not American".

As evidenced on the photo link, AVRO Canada considered wing mounted turbojets: (Note the Viscount-sized port holes)

http://vipmedia.globalnews.ca/2013/0...4258365758.jpg


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