Autair 748s were leased to many operators- in the winter and almost entirely from 1968 - we rarely saw them a Luton after that when One Elevens meant passengers and crews didn't have to endure long round trips to the likes of Corfu. This was just before I regularly visited the airport but the aircraft is probably back from a winter lease or about to go out on lease. The Viscount next door is presumably British Midlands G-ASED minus the BM on the tail - is that plate a rudder lock or is the photo deceiving? The aircraft looks quite dirty - don't remember seeing it like this. Not sure about the DC3 - it might be G-APPC which languished on the apron for most of the following summer.
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The Viscount next door is presumably British Midlands G-ASED minus the BM on the tail |
Originally Posted by 22/04
(Post 10386599)
The Viscount next door is presumably British Midlands G-ASED minus the BM on the tail - is that plate a rudder lock or is the photo deceiving?
Originally Posted by ATNotts
(Post 10386902)
I always thought that hybrid tail on 'SED was an experimental livery as an alternative to the "BM". I was only a whipper snapper back then however, and I may be totally wrong.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
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The plate covers the cutout in the rudder leading edge where the centre hinges are located.
The tail markings are of course the last remains of the original BMA scheme inherited from Derby Airways (as worn by the Argonauts). The ''new'' logo is now shown here on the tail (used on the Viscounts, new 1-11's 707's and DC-9's until 1986 - plus the smaller Shorts and F27 ) but that was not how the logo was ultimately applied... |
Photo is most likely early April 1969 when G-ATMJ returned from its second lease to Jamaica Air Services (on 2/4/69 according to Air Pictorial). At a guess the Viscount was in limbo awaiting the "new" i.e. 1969 livery to be applied which involved the replacement of the BM logo with the "BMA Jet" insignia. I would assume the tail logo is a sticker rather than a metal plate. G-AWGV appeared in March 1969 with the same scheme on the tail:-
https://www.airliners.net/photo/BMI-...ount/1358406/L The DC-3 was most likely Autair's G-APPO which sat around for a couple of years before getting broken up in Feb 1970. |
The DC-3 was most likely Autair's G-APPO That just leaves the Britannia to sort out which looks like a British Eagle one, awaiting a new operator or the breaker after they stopped operations in autumn 1968. |
Hadn't noticed the Brit. Think you're right, ex-Eagle of which several came and went 1969-1970. Only 2 candidates in April '69 - G-AOVK and G-ARKB, both of which I first saw during March 1969. One was parked in the "graveyard" as in the picture; the other in the "light aircraft park", where hangar 127 now sits. In the background in this photo taken 7/4/69:-
https://i.imgur.com/AG3edhW.jpg Can't be sure but I think the above was G-AOVK which was broken up Feb 1970. G-ARKB was sold to Tellair - not sure if it ever appeared at Luton as such, though, unlike G-ARKA, seen here on 23/3/69:- https://i.imgur.com/10LZmMk.jpg 'KB went to Coventry later in 1969 where it was finally broken up in Nov 1971. |
Both the Tellair Brits wound up at CVT, where they were broken up I think. unless I was suffering double vision back then!
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Originally Posted by 22/04
(Post 10387498)
imagining that BMA went straight from the vertical BM to the jet livery you mention-which I remember coming in in 1970 with One Elevens.
https://i.imgur.com/9iyoKrz.jpg G-AXLN 3/5/70, think the other nose was of G-AXLL |
Has anyone ever operated an EMB120 Brasilia into LTN?
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Originally Posted by YVRLTN
(Post 10399679)
Has anyone ever operated an EMB120 Brasilia into LTN?
G-EXEL 14/4/89:- https://i.imgur.com/f4zp5SA.jpg G-BRAZ 30/3/91:- https://i.imgur.com/r7clLVB.jpg G-BRAZ appeared with "Air EC" titles sometime in 1991. G-BRAZ 4/7/91:- https://i.imgur.com/B9z9Fxs.jpg |
Posted elsewhere, this the first Jet Provost T.1 XD674 supposedly at Luton Airport but I do not recognise the black nissen huts, nor the background. Anyone else have any views?
It first flew on the evening of 26 Jun 1954 so it might be in preparation of its first flight as there appears to be a deal of interest from onlookers, but this airframe went all over the place so the pic might have been taken elsewhere. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ed863716b8.jpg |
No aerial photos seem to have Nissan huts like the ones in the photo. Also I don't think any of the Luton hangars had brick walls, so I would suspect the photo wasn't taken at Luton. As a new type of aircraft, the JP would have attracted interest wherever it went, so it could have been a first visit to any number of RAF bases.
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I think you right about the brick wall but I don't think that is an RAF airfield as most people are dressed in civvies apart from the two policemen/security guards. That airframe spent time at Boscombe Down and with Armstrong Whitworth's, presumably Bitteswell.
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I can only think of the hangar that became part of the GKN complex behind Percival Way but I can't find those nissen huts on any photo.
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I think this is where the photo of the Jet Provost was taken - these images are from a photo taken in August 1963 and a couple of nissen huts still remained
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7f3cb2d238.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....03e573e267.jpg |
Well done that man.
The gantry can be seen in the background https://i.imgur.com/UTe7tzY.jpg This is the hangar on the right https://i.imgur.com/psfRXZp.jpg |
G-ARKB was sold to Tellair - not sure if it ever appeared at Luton as such https://i.imgur.com/cAht7bV.jpg David Wynn |
Thanks for finding that LTNman. The last Britannia built. My only sighting was 8/3/69, still in British Eagle colours then.
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Heads up that at 8pm tonight on Talking Pictures which is available on all platforms including Freeview, Sky and Freesat, will be showing a film called Mr Denning Heads North. This 1951 film has the odd scene taken at Luton although I seem to remember this scene got cut out on the version I saw.
https://i.imgur.com/NjSnIWH.jpg |
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Originally Posted by cj241101
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No aerial photos seem to have Nissan huts like the ones in the photo. Also I don't think any of the Luton hangars had brick walls, so I would suspect the photo wasn't taken at Luton. As a new type of aircraft, the JP would have attracted interest wherever it went, so it could have been a first visit to any number of RAF bases.
https://i.imgur.com/DIVHzYd.jpg This is a photo of the experimental hangar with a hint of nissan hut https://i.imgur.com/RN39Y2p.jpg |
First Monarch flight 5th April 1968. (Best to mute speakers due to horrible music)
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Great video - cannot recall where OM/MON's London coach terminal was - Edgware Road or Tottenham Court Rd areas?
Court Line and Britannia both had London Terminals. Summer 1968 LTN starts to go-jet! First jets based at LTN arrive - Autair 1-11 400's and Britannia 737-204's Dan Air opens their LTN 1-11 base a year later, in 1969. OM/MON will have to wait a few years to get their hands on their first jet, the 720B in 1971 Channel AW also got their first Trident One E in 1968, and their first 1-11 the summer before, (STN based but LTN saw PMI and other charters) |
To be pedantic: "Nissan" are cars. The huts are "Nissen".
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Staff seem relaxed, even laid back. Couldn't be more different from today's mad house.
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In the photo of post # 3541 there is a strange vehicle or contraption standing in the left, between the white overalled-man and the gentleman in the foreground. Could someone please explain what it is? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by rog747
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Great video - cannot recall where OM/MON's London coach terminal was - Edgware Road or Tottenham Court Rd areas?
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Wash,probably a small motorised fuel `bowser` for refuelling away from the fuel pumps...Can`t remember the name/type,but later ones were larger drive-on..Someone will have a photo....
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First Monarch flight 5th April 1968. (Best to mute speakers due to horrible music |
Originally Posted by washoutt
(Post 10407436)
In the photo of post # 3541 there is a strange vehicle or contraption standing in the left, between the white overalled-man and the gentleman in the foreground. Could someone please explain what it is? Thanks.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a064a21a7f.png |
Aha, thanks. I've never seen such a tiny browser. Never to old to learn, my grandmother would say.
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Another view complete with fuel gauge
https://i.imgur.com/QcJmx3p.jpg This one is their self powered version https://i.imgur.com/DdLqizD.jpg |
That Comet must have been going at a helluva speed.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10404582)
Heads up that at 8pm tonight on Talking Pictures which is available on all platforms including Freeview, Sky and Freesat, will be showing a film called Mr Denning Heads North. This 1951 film has the odd scene taken at Luton although I seem to remember this scene got cut out on the version I saw.
Percival Way behind what became Monarch's hangar https://i.imgur.com/hxLpSvX.jpg Luton's first control tower https://i.imgur.com/kw1xsWu.jpg |
Sporting...!!
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https://i.imgur.com/LwN9z5v.jpg This airframe G-AOVS has been half buried for more years than I can remember. It have now been dug out and moved to the boundary fence due to building work. Its future is uncertain https://i.imgur.com/5KlQ17O.jpg https://i.imgur.com/k6F6hx6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/c5P4RUJ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/a7VPuZ4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/mLhqDTc.jpg |
LTNman:
I can see looking at the top photo, and comparing with the others, that the aircraft's name was changed. Can see that on the fuselage only pics it "Amu", but on the earlier picture, when it was operational, the name is much longer, though I can't read it. When was it changed, and does anyone know why? |
When in Redcoat colours it was named “Christian” |
Yes, that is correct G-AOVS was named Christian after One of the companies Directors sons. The name was transferred to G-BRAC which was acquired during 1978.'OVS was renamed Amy after another other director's daughter. Amy was withdrawn from service in July 1979 and was used for Ground shots during the filming of "Buccaneer", for continuity purposes the name Christian was reapplied to her port side as G-BRAC had been used for the air to air shots in the title sequence.
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