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Haraka 13th Jun 2015 07:54

High Altitude Canberra
 
Pure Nostalgia. As a kid one day from our garden in Stopsley, I watched the Canberra doing some high angle climbs and wing overs. Haraka senior confirmed on coming back from work that filming had been going on. (ISTR post the actual event).

LTNman 13th Jun 2015 09:25

So what are the two aircraft in the background on the film? At the 26 second mark there is a partial view of a large twin prop and what the hell is that at the 48 second mark? Looks like a passenger aircraft is carrying a jet engine under each wing.:eek::confused:

oncemorealoft 13th Jun 2015 09:34

I think the twin prop is a Vickers Valetta while the mystery jet is an Avro Ashton - a jet version of the Avro Tudor.

oxenos 13th Jun 2015 09:37

1. ? Varsity
2. Avro Ashton

oxenos 13th Jun 2015 09:38

OMA - you just beat me. however, 1 is not a Valetta, which had a tail wheel.

asw28-866 13th Jun 2015 09:38

Aircraft @ 48Secs in Pathe clip
 
LTNman

Might be an Avro Ashton, Nene powered development of Avro Tudor?

'866

Well done OMA, first in!

vintage ATCO 13th Jun 2015 09:50

This would be Ashton Mk2 (and the second airframe) WB491 which was converted by Napier and Son in 1954 as a universal engine test-bed for National Gas Turbine Establishment. It flew with a RR Avon in a ventral pod but in 1955 the pod was replaced by a RR Conway for the Boeing 707-420.

I think what is seen at 26s is the Ashton (look at the tail) and there is just some equipment next to it that looks like propellers.

LTNman 13th Jun 2015 12:26

Thanks for the info everyone.

Wander00 13th Jun 2015 12:38

Surprised to see the Canberra taxying on grass - did it take-off and land on grass too?

vintage ATCO 13th Jun 2015 15:07

It had to, Luton didn't get its hard runway until 1960.

vintage ATCO 14th Jun 2015 07:52

On reflection, with better specs on and prompted by a PM . . . , I think what appears at 26s in the Pathe film is a Varsity. It therefore could be VX835 Napier's engine test bed. According to Putnam's Vickers Aircraft since 1908 it would have been fitted with a Napier Eland NE16 on the starboard wing. A bit before my time but I do remember the Convair N340EL.

LTNman 14th Jun 2015 08:18

Pathe at 26 seconds

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...ps7moupume.jpg

vintage ATCO 15th Jun 2015 16:27

Napier's Varsity

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...3f&oe=55F9BCCF

LTNman 19th Jun 2015 06:25

Another question for the experts here. What is the type of helicopter seen landing at Luton as it is a new one on me

Business Only Jets - British Pathé

treadigraph 19th Jun 2015 06:43

Brantly 305.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brantl...6_edited-2.jpg

LTNman 19th Jun 2015 14:50

18 minutes for an answer.:ok: Cheers

treadigraph 19th Jun 2015 15:59

Would have been quicker if the office IT had been working quicker!

Don't think I've ever seen a Brantly 305 in the flesh - mind you, haven't seen many of its little sister.

LTNman 25th Jun 2015 11:23

Must be around 1969 which was an interesting period at Luton as jets started to replace props.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...psdmvnsjuj.jpg
Origin of photo unknown

DaveReidUK 25th Jun 2015 12:29


Origin of photo unknown
Coming soon to a fridge near you:

Autair International BAC 111 G-AVOF - 40th Anniversary 2015 Calendar F ? airobilia

dixi188 25th Jun 2015 13:42

Am I missing something?
40th anniversary? 1974-2004 = 30 years.

DaveReidUK 25th Jun 2015 13:56


Originally Posted by dixi188 (Post 9024063)
Am I missing something?
40th anniversary? 1974-2004 = 30 years.

Yes, I think you've missed the fact that it's a calendar produced in 2014 for the following year. :O

cj241101 25th Jun 2015 15:05

Autair 1-11's
 
Quote:-
"Must be around 1969 which was an interesting period at Luton as jets started to replace props".

Delivery dates for the Autair 1-11's were 8/2/68 (G-AVOF), 19/3/68 (G-AVOE), 11/5/68 (G-AWBL), 12/68 (G-AVGP ex Channel Airways, leased from BAC - anyone know the exact date?) and 20/3/69 (G-AWXJ). So it COULD be 1968....Hard to tell which aircraft the last one is - looks like G-AW.. something which is absolutely no help anyway.






DaveReidUK 25th Jun 2015 16:08


Originally Posted by cj241101 (Post 9024160)
Hard to tell which aircraft the last one is - looks like G-AW.. something which is absolutely no help anyway.

Definitely G-AWBL.

AUTAIR INTERNATIONAL BAC 111 G-AVOF OF and G-AWBL at Luton - 6 x 4 Pri ? airobilia

cj241101 25th Jun 2015 17:52

Autair1-11'S
 
The absence of either of the 2 later aircraft probably favours 1968 but not, of course, conclusively.

LTNman 29th Jun 2015 18:08

Taken from a Viscount?

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...psagkxnwmm.jpg
Origin of photo unknown

compton3bravo 29th Jun 2015 19:39

I´d guess a British Midland or could it be an Alidair Viscount with those yellow tips on the props taxing round to stand 9L to park nose out but the Monarch Brit is nose out and could be on 9L already. Vintage ATCO may be able to verify.

vintage ATCO 29th Jun 2015 20:05

There wasn't a 9L in those days, stand 9 was a nose out stand.

22/04 30th Jun 2015 12:03

Think most things had yellow prop tips in those days. The there was a phase where there was a move to increase visibility with black and white stripes IIRC.

Where was the Viscount heading to - seem to remember those mostly parked nose out in those days. Vintage ATCO will know- was stand 8 also generally nose out with 7 being the last nose in one?

I guess the photo was around 1970, possibly 71 with the mix of aircraft there - the Court Line One Eleven looks short enough to be a 400 in which case good old 'BL again and 1970.

YVRLTN 2nd Jul 2015 03:54

Long time lurker, had to sign up after enjoying this amazing thread - keep up the great memories everyone.

Sadly I dont have any photos from my LTN days, but many memories mostly from late 80's up to 2005 when I emigrated. Appreciate any photos or info on any of these:

IL-76's - Inversija, Air Foyle / Khors Air and Aeroflot
AN12 - Bright Aviation & others
French 732 - Emerald something
LTU Sud 752
Eurocypria A320
BA Cityflyer ATR42
Southern L100 Herc
Air Bridge Merchantmen
Hunting Electra
Manx 360 - always remember G-ISLE
Cypriot 721 was a regular, registered to AIMES
Netherlines Saab
Air Ops Tristar
Airtours DC10
MK / Cargo D'Or DC8
Ambassador 752 parked there for a while
Alitalia 767 with G- reg, OIT?
French Navy N262 Fregate
BAe owned J31 was also a regular
European 1-11's, mostly for FR before enough 732's came online at LTN
Streamline 330's & OCS Bandit's
Spanair MD83's
Swiftair & EAT / DHL CV580's / 727's
Ratioflug F27
Sabre 727

Also seem to remember an open day where I went on board an Air Antique Dak and RAF C130, not sure when they ended, but was the year the cargo terminal opened I think as Reeve were really pushing it

LTNman 2nd Jul 2015 15:35


BA Cityflyer ATR42
Yes, I remember them but what year did they start flying to Paris?

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...pschq5bkqo.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...psenizkqks.jpg

LTNman 2nd Jul 2015 15:50


Also seem to remember an open day where I went on board an Air Antique Dak and RAF C130, not sure when they ended, but was the year the cargo terminal opened I think as Reeve were really pushing it
I have that on Video. Can't remember if it was just one day or over the weekend. On the day I took the camcorder there was plenty of snow on the ground. Coaches were taking visitors around airside with staff explaining airside operations.

LTNman 2nd Jul 2015 16:26


Eurocypria A320
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...ps42u4cjn1.jpg
20th March 2003

compton3bravo 2nd Jul 2015 18:25

That is a Boeing 737-800 LTNman. Nice picture though.

vintage ATCO 2nd Jul 2015 18:34

Tut, tut, LTNman. Think we might have to take your anorak off you.

The open days were in 1992 and 1993 across Sat/Sun. The C130 was at the first but it wasn't a RAF one but one of the usual commercial ones that was a regular visitor. Some group wanted to tow it manually along taxiway Delta. I think the crew kept the brakes on.

The Luton Paris service was funded by he airport so effectively London Luton Airport ran an airline.

LTNman 2nd Jul 2015 18:44


Tut, tut, LTNman. Think we might have to take your anorak off you.
After getting the 757 lineup wrong a few weeks ago I have lost all credibility now :eek: Although I have to admit I did only look for the airline and not the aircraft type.

LTNman 2nd Jul 2015 18:50

The timetable shows a Saturday morning rotation to Paris yet I remember flying off to Jersey on a day return as it did a W pattern in Jersey. Maybe that was the following year.

Didn't Suckling take over the Paris link? Seem to remember they had 2 aircraft types from the same manufacture, one fast and one slow.

boeing_eng 2nd Jul 2015 20:24

I flew LTN-CDG-LTN on ATR42 G-BUEB in Sept 1994

Lots of interesting Russian visitors in those days.......I recall one IL-76 which ended up staying far longer than expected on the Pond. The rumour at the time was that some of the crew had been arrested shoplifting in the Arndale!

cj241101 2nd Jul 2015 20:31

BA City Express/Suckling
 
I have British Airways City Express starting to CDG on 27/3/94. Suckling Airways began their Waterford route on 15/12/94 with their Dornier 228's (the slow one). They took over the BA CDG route on 29/10/95 with Dornier 328's (the fast one), with the last BA flight on 28/10/95. The Waterford route was suspended Jan 1997, returning on a peak season basis only. Last flights I have were over Christmas 1999. CDG continued until 26/1/01 (name change to Scot Airways on 31/10/99).


http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1435781589
G-BVEF 16/2/95


http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1435782583
G-BVTZ 21/5/95


http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1u6yk9qz.jpg
CS-AZZ 16/2/95. This aircraft flew for Sucking as CS-AZZ on the Waterford route, becoming G-BWEX on 10/7/95.


http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1435785590
G-BWWT 6/9/99

boeing_eng 2nd Jul 2015 20:39

The original Sucking Do228 (G-BMMR) was a regular visitor back in the late 80's when it used to visit Mc'Alpine for maintenance at weekends..

LTNman 2nd Jul 2015 20:44

The name Scot Airways still to this day lives on at Luton if you know where to look.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...psnfum91qx.jpg


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