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F4TCT 18th Oct 2012 10:05

Im excited to see what happens with these spits, and would love to see some photos.

Only time will tell!

Dan

maliyahsdad2 28th Nov 2012 09:08

BBC RADIO 2 news reporting today Spitfires found but no more than that, are they about to add more news or just rehashing the old story?

NutherA2 28th Nov 2012 10:24

TV News interview indicated some progress.Apparently excavation is about to start & should determine whether the large amounts of metal which have been found are in fact Spitfires. IIRC the interviewee thinks he hopes to know something more in a month or so.

aviate1138 28th Nov 2012 10:51

Sadly IMHO it will turn out to be a big con. Why did they bury new, flyable aircraft - in what must have been a massive excavation - in wooden crates, that will have behaved like Mosquito wings in the tropics and rotted away and why no documentation/eyewitness accounts/pics etc? I can believe they dug pits and dumped scrapped aircraft/ engines etc but whenever aircraft are recovered from anything other than ice or water or bogs are they is such awful condition? Why should these so called Spitfires be almost ready to fly???

Burma Spitfire dig - trickery.net

In the picture of Spit crates the aircraft are being unloaded not packed. This is before they flew. I do hope I am wrong but I smell a huge rat [Burmese or British] to get loadsamoney... :rolleyes:

F4TCT 28th Nov 2012 11:03

I think its more of the fairy tale bit of this whole idea that they would be 'flyable'. Im sure they will find something, however you have to think that they wouldn't have secured this deal or even risked wasting money if it was a load of hot air..

Even if they found an immaculate spit in the crate, its still going to be years before it would be ready to fly.

Dan

Load Toad 28th Nov 2012 11:38

The report on BBC World News today is that they have been found, that an agreement has been signed with the Myanmar President to have them recovered and returned to the UK.

Agaricus bisporus 28th Nov 2012 11:53

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

chemtrails
Flat Earth
Roswell
Apollo in the studio
9-11 by the CIA
Kennedy was a Martian
And as a finale, scores of aircraft are buried in wooden crates! As one does.
And not only that, they've survived 70 monsoons. Some wood. Some crate. Yeah. Right.

Been smoking those tarred joints by any chance?

Wander00 28th Nov 2012 13:51

Bet all that is worth saving are the data plates, and they can come to UK in hand baggage!

I'll get my coat....................

PAXboy 28th Nov 2012 14:12


that they have been found
Have they been found where someone buried the replicas last year ... hang on a moment Wander00, I'm just getting my coat too. :}

SpringHeeledJack 28th Nov 2012 15:44

I was truly shocked to discover that you only need the data plate to be able to 'restore' such aircraft with non time appropriate components/ frame and so on.

I would be suprised if the crates and their contents will have survived no matter how well wrapped at the time.



SHJ

G-CPTN 28th Nov 2012 15:57

BBC News - Hunt for Spitfires 'buried in Burma' after WWII

F4TCT 28th Nov 2012 16:24

So in reality then they've found bugger all.

I assumed the dig was actually taking place now? Where as the news article mentions jan 2013. :ugh:

I hope they find something. I believe there will be a documentary at some point as a film crew will be there with them

Dan

beamender99 28th Nov 2012 16:35

Dozens of WWII spitfires found buried in the jungle in Burma could be flying again within three years | Mail Online

'It should take two to three years to restore them so we should see something in the next three years or so,' he added.

Squadron of 'lost' spitfires could be flying again in three years - Telegraph

"We put a camera down a boorhole and went into a box and through two inches of Canadian pine," Mr Cundall disclosed.
"Yes, we did see what we thought was an aeroplane."




F4TCT 28th Nov 2012 16:42

photos would be nice, or a blog of their work...

Fareastdriver 28th Nov 2012 17:46


went into a box and through two inches of Canadian pine,"
Well, that's some poor old Tiger Moth's main spar gone.

Agaricus bisporus 28th Nov 2012 17:46

Photos of men on the moon exist in droves yet some still persist...


However, when the war against the Japanese in Burma came to an abrupt end, the British South-East Asia command decided to bury them to ensure they could not be found by the enemy.
Just read that sentence and ponder on the logic of burying aircraft so the vanquished enemy of a war that has ended won't get hold of them. It's total, utter nonsense. The mans talking out of his "boorhole".

And this one - equally as idiotic;

"We put a camera down a boorhole and went into a box and through two inches of Canadian pine,"
Down the "boorhole" - oh dear, he's not up on even the simplest terminology, is he?
Then into a box.
Then through 2 inches of Canadian pine, that matchwood - er - timber so tough it survives 70 years underground in the tropics...(he's had it analysed, I expect, or maybe just recognises Canadian against Norwegian when he sees it at the bottom of a "boorhole".) Scuse me, but what's 2 in of pine doing inside the box? Is this another example of the accurate terminology/description we've already seen?

But the pristine Spitfire inside is, well, "what we thought was an aeroplane."

So he can identify "Canadian " pine but can't identify what he sees as an aeroplane?

Is it me or is there a shortfall in credibility in what's being reported here, even if we have suspended belief in the many practical reasons why 40 Spitfires could not have been buried in crates in the first place, and the similar number of reasons why they couldn't be anything but crushed rust and compost if they had been.

There are more convincing arguments for the earth being flat, simple as that.

500N 28th Nov 2012 20:15

"Is it me or is there a shortfall in credibility in what's being reported here, even if we have suspended belief in the many practical reasons why 40 Spitfires could not have been buried in crates in the first place, and the similar number of reasons why they couldn't be anything but crushed rust and compost if they had been."


Agree.

If it had been most other people, once permission granted don't
you think you would be in a hurry to at least get one up or
at least drill a bigger hole so a decent camera could have a look ?

Classic drip feed of information over time with lots of pretty pictures
and hope of restoration to keep people interested / money flowing.

I reckon just a money grab.
.

F4TCT 28th Nov 2012 20:41

Yea,

I also thought why the hell would anyone bore a hole in the 'protective' crate, thus allowing loads of water to get down into the crate until the bugger gets dug up. Doesn't make sense to me.

Seems to be a distinct lack of information on this project to be fair.

500N 28th Nov 2012 21:36

This whole saga reminds me of a company called Metal Storm
that drip fed the media, investors et al information on new methods
of delivering fire onto the enemy.

Superb great videos etc. Had US Gov't involvement and all.

Went into administration this year.

Have a look on youtube if you want to see the videos of the technology.

aviate1138 12th Dec 2012 13:28

I see a CGI image that makes me doubt even more that we will ever see anything other than smoke and mirrors from the Burmese jungle excavations......


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