Originally Posted by arem
(Post 9829936)
I Think your VC-10 was the 707-436
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Originally Posted by Georgeablelovehowindia
(Post 9830345)
I remember a BOAC Boeing 707 having nose gear retraction problems - base training at Stansted was it? It returned for a nose gear up landing on 28R.
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Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 9830568)
Don't argue with HD; if he says it was a VC10 then it was!(Sorry don't know how to attach 'smilies')
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It was indeed a 707-436 after training at Stansted. There is a video somewhere of the landing from the BBC news I think.
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There were a good few 707 u/c incidents - how about the one which suffered a main wheel collapse on the corner of the inner taxiway at Heathrow just by the G stands. It was fully laden.
As for the VC10 incident - how many of the "experts" on here were actually there when it happened? |
Regarding the 707-436 ex Stansted landing on 28R at LHR. the nose gear doors stayed open but no proper nose gear extension as it had not been properly assembled after maintenance.
I would need to check my logbook for the date, late 1960s would be about it - but I'm pretty sure it was March 31st as I was late home for my sons birthday party! |
Originally Posted by Arriva driver
(Post 9831485)
Regarding the 707-436 ex Stansted landing on 28R at LHR. the nose gear doors stayed open but no proper nose gear extension as it had not been properly assembled after maintenance.
I would need to check my logbook for the date, late 1960s would be about it - but I'm pretty sure it was March 31st as I was late home for my sons birthday party! |
That sounds like it - jeeps was it fifty years ago!!
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A little more detail, courtesy of the excellent Pete Bish/Brian Piket book on the first 50 years of ATC at Heathrow:
G-APFP's nose gear had retracted with the wheels offset by a few degrees to starboard. When the gear was subsequently selected down, the port nose wheel lodged on the edge of the wheel bay and stalled the activating jack and the emergency lowering system. Following the landing, a fire caused by burning magnesium in the NLG fairing was quickly extinguished by the AFS. |
I was on duty in the Tower, the night the Chipmunk landed on the Grass to the North of 28R. We never saw it and it was not until the North side Met Office rang the tower about 0615 and asked what the light plane was doing on the grass outside their office, that we became aware of the Chippie. There was no sign of the pilot and Passenger who had scarpered under the cover of Darkness. KCW was the watch manager, oh happy days.
Doug B |
Originally Posted by Mr Oleo Strut
(Post 9828998)
Just a few more ramblings to add to my posts 49 and 50 about my time at LHR in Customs from 1962 to 1968, before memory fades and the new runway obliterates familiar places:-
I remember how quiet the then new Terminal 3 Oceanic was before and after the 'wagon trains' morning and evening. It was quite creepy, a huge building and nobody much about. Very handy for a quiet drink and a kip! Noise restrictions limited night flying but there was a regular arrival of a Seaboard and Western CL44 freighter (based on the 'whispering giant' Britannia) at about 3am which I liked to volunteer to go and clear. There were only three crew to deal with, the whole front of the aircraft hinged open |
26left Glad you're still with us Doug. Happy Days indeed. Bren
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Doug
How much longer of your sentence to serve? Brian W
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Originally Posted by HEATHROW DIRECTOR
(Post 9831455)
As for the VC10 incident - how many of the "experts" on here were actually there when it happened?
You mentioned a Ghana Airways VC10 landing with its brakes set. That's another one that's new to me, but could it be that we're getting these two confused or was there also a VC10 that landed without an extended nosegear? |
Originally Posted by Mr Oleo Strut
(Post 9829723)
Don't I recall the Russians, particularly TU104s and others, hastily converted bombers with glass noses
ground engineer doing ground-power checks lit up all four on a Comet at the same time in error, and it was lucky the beast was chained down. . |
Originally Posted by WHBM
(Post 9832126)
A BEA Comet 4B doing a similar power check did override the chocks, lunged forward, and crashed into hangar doors ahead, which fell forward onto unlucky Trident 'PI which was inside. It was repaired, but was lost shortly afterwards in the Staines accident, and initial investigation was whether the repairs had somehow failed.
Papa India must have had a very unlucky life. Prior to the Staines disaster it had its tail chopped off in the 1968 Ambassador crash at LHR (which was also looked at as part of the Staines investigation). So it sounds like the hangar incident may have happened while it was being repaired, or some time following its return to service in February 1969. I remember doing 4-engine runups on Merchantmen where we were pointing at the hangars, but by the time I joined BEA (just as the last Comet was being retired) all the jet detuners were oriented so that aircraft pointed out towards the airfield, so no likelihood of any repetition. |
They might be with us, but their memory is fading.
The Comet over the Viscount chocks was 28Feb68=G-ARGM The short landing VC15 was EastAf on 10L oh 26L - I still have the Comet on it's belly pic TKU |
707's LHR
Originally Posted by treadigraph
(Post 9830016)
707 as I recall:
Regulars: Alia, BA, Pan Am, TWA, BWIA, Varig, Aerolineas Argentinas, Qantas, SAA, Air India, Singapore, Iraqi, El Al, Nigerian, TAP, Saudi, MEA, TMA, Egypt Air, Kuwait, PIA, Bangladesh Biman, BMA, Sudan, Ethiopian Occasionally: Air France, Sabena, Aer Lingus The odd exec aicraft - N108BN is one I recall which I think is now owned by a Mr Travolta? Olympic 707 and 720B Air Mauritius Syrian Air Malta MSA Cyprus AW JAT Turkish Iran Air Kenya AW and Simba cargo 707 EI 707's and (720 in 1960's) seaboard world British eagle 1968 BCAL freighter Tarom Zambia LLoyd Malaysian EAAC |
Originally Posted by treadigraph
(Post 9829832)
Seem to recall an Icelandic 720 having a nose wheel collapse at Heathrow around 1980.
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Originally Posted by overfly
(Post 8754790)
Oleo Strut and Dockwell, the Stanwell pub is the Rising Sun. Loving this thread - I started straight from school (Windsor Grammar) in '68 in BEA cargo at Hangar 8, soon moved across to the then-brand-new Cargocentre and well remember legging it across to a small gate in the peri fence on many occasions to get to the pub. When I went back eleven years ago to witness the last Concorde departure I was pleased to note said gate is still there!
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