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KJ994 14th Jan 2015 00:48

Here is TG503 at Scampton on 24 June 1976, with four Cod War fish symbols just visible below the cockpit.

I was lucky enough, as a civilian and temporary ROC "recruit", to do a 4-hour trip in 503 that day, including a low level run across Exmoor, Bristol Channel, the Welsh Hills and Cumbria and over the Yorkshire Moors back to Scampton. Captain, Flt Lt Fred Hambley. Fred, if by any chance you lurk here: it may have been a routine day in the office for you, but for me it was a very memorable occasion. Thank you again!



http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/o.../76-106web.gif

ancientaviator62 14th Jan 2015 06:44

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps76cac86a.jpg

I think this is the Pershore Hastings but could easily be wrong, Taken from the Herc at Akrotiri with a VC 10 'escaping' !

evansb 14th Jan 2015 07:11

Three generations. From a pilot's perspective, this is the best photo on this thread ever.

ancientaviator62 14th Jan 2015 07:41

evansb,
thank you for your compliment. But just a case of right place, right time with for a change, a camera.

staircase 14th Jan 2015 07:53

Ancient Aviator,

I would bet next weeks pension that the picture is of TG536 or TG568 from the bombing school.

They had 2 unmodified Hasting for crew training and 'transport support', and were allowed 'out' to various places for the weekend!

I would guess it was taken in the early 1970's, and I would be pretty sure the crew was in a bar somewhere!

brakedwell 14th Jan 2015 08:58

Two of an older generation at Khormaksar in 1958

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c3...n/HastAden.jpg

Unfortunate incident at Lajes in December 1957 when WJ332, a mark 2 Hastings, broke free from it's picketing and rolled back into a Portuguese Air Force RB17 during a gale.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c3...ps83b1af36.jpg

ancientaviator62 15th Jan 2015 07:28

staircase,
I doubt that your pension is in peril ! As I implied in my caption I was not sure who owned the a/c. Thanks for the correction.

ancientaviator62 15th Jan 2015 07:30

Brakedwell,
reminds me of the time at Lajes when our Herc pulled out the ground picket points and made a dash for freedom. Found next day at the fence but amazingly without damage.

Fareastdriver 15th Jan 2015 09:31

Seeing we're going into Hasting with different generation aircraft here is three with a Valiant at Tripoli.

It's a bit mauvy because its Agfa that fades with time.

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...2-2010_016.jpg

Dr Jekyll 15th Jan 2015 09:38

An earlier generation perhaps, but the Hastings outlasted the Valiant by 12 years.

ancientaviator62 15th Jan 2015 09:46

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps322c5fe6.jpg

A slightly more intact Hastings at Lajes.

brakedwell 15th Jan 2015 10:27

Our bent Hastings looked ancient compared to the MATS aircraft passing through Lajes in 1957.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c3...psf09c4807.jpg

Also seems ancient looking from the inside out!
(Heading north from Nairobi 1958)

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c3...on/HastKen.jpg

India Four Two 15th Jan 2015 10:41

brakedwell,

Your Lajes picture of the C-54s brings to mind something I've always wondered about. Why didn't HP design the Hastings with tricycle gear?

staircase 15th Jan 2015 10:55

It did - Google Handley Page Hermes.

I reckon the question should have been why did the RAF not buy the one with the nose gear.

Stanwell 15th Jan 2015 10:57

To do with the loading height for military cargo, wasn't it?

brakedwell 15th Jan 2015 11:04

They did - It was called a Hermes, but only 29 were built. BOAC used them for a short time before they were passed down to the independents.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c3...ps1fe18d66.png

The RAF was lumbered with the tail wheel Hastings because the Army wanted an aircraft capable of carrying underslung loads.

India Four Two 15th Jan 2015 11:42

brakedwell,

I never would have guessed that the Army were involved in the decision!

Wander00 15th Jan 2015 14:59

BW - not sure I follow the last bit - ISTR there was a pannier for the Hastings, but surely it would have worked equally well with a tail or a nose wheel

brakedwell 15th Jan 2015 15:22

W00
We used to drop underslung vehicles from the Hastings. The Army Heavy Air Despatch unit at Abingdon possessed an endless supply of battered Austin Champs, which we used to deposit on Watchfield with varying degrees of success. That's when I discovered a Champ can be reduced to 12" high if the parachutes fail to open! It was also possible to drop (small) field guns and trailers, but I never saw it done.

Wander00 15th Jan 2015 15:47

OK, would love to see a photo, but still cannot understand why if the aircraft is going to have its fuselage roughly parallel from the ground immediately before rotation (and maintain load clearance from the ground), it matters whether the beast has a nose or tail wheel.


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