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barit1 31st Jul 2010 17:04

Two first-line fighters
 
...only 23 years apart. Taken at AirVenture this week. Wonder if the Dreidecker's Vmax is above a P-51D's Vso?
http://www.airventure.org/news/2010/...uo%202_jk_.jpg

henry crun 31st Jul 2010 21:49

Lovely photo barit; what is that object at the tip of the lower right wing of the Tripe ?

alanmt 31st Jul 2010 22:14

Object under wingtip
 
There is one under both lower wingtips they are supposed to protect the wing if it goes a little wrong on takeoff or landing. :)

henry crun 31st Jul 2010 23:23

I did consider that reason, but the ones on the Tripe appear to be rectangular in section and blunt nosed, just right for digging in if a wingtip should touch the ground.

Entaxei 31st Jul 2010 23:47

Could be early JATO - but no sign of any fuses to light. ;)

SomeGuyOnTheDeck 1st Aug 2010 02:03


I did consider that reason, but the ones on the Tripe appear to be rectangular in section and blunt nosed, just right for digging in if a wingtip should touch the ground.
I think with a short-coupled and 'torque-y' aircraft like that, you are most likely to catch a wingtip in a groundloop, when the nose is well up, so the front of the skid shouldn't make contact. Or perhaps that was the thinking, anyway. There are one or two other WW I vintage aircraft with wingtip skids - I'll see if I can find a photo.

Edit ----
Curtiss Jenny:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ny_cropped.jpg
If the Microsoft Flight Simulator version is anything like correct (a big if), landing a Jenny without a skid touching in any sort of wind was an achievement.

Noyade 1st Aug 2010 04:58

Item 59
 
Aviagraphica call then "Wing tip skids" but they look different (less bulky) than in the replica aircraft.

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/4186/tipskid.jpg
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/5747/dr1n.jpg

treadigraph 1st Aug 2010 07:42

'Ere, that Tripe's got a tailwheel!

Lovely pic though, is that Vlado Lenoch's Mustang?

SomeGuyOnTheDeck 1st Aug 2010 20:01


Ere, that Tripe's got a tailwheel!
Yeah, and a radial engine too. Far too easy to fly without having the nose going at right angles to the way you want it to in a turn, and no castor oil in your face (and ultimately, your digestive system). Pilots these days don't know how lucky they are...

Only kidding, I'd imagine it is still a bit of a handful.

India Four Two 4th Aug 2010 13:34

Judging by this EAA page 2010 - 06/18 - Fokker Dr.1 Triplane, the Dr. I in the photo is from the Vintage Aero Flying Museum in Colorado Lafayette Foundation

Looking at the photos on their website, you will see that the wingtip skid is exactly like the one in Noyade's post. It must be just a trick of the light that makes it look so bulky in the P51 photo.

Surprisingly, it has an IO-360 rather than a radial. The range is quoted as 125 miles, which must have made for an interesting cross country (871 miles).


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