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XV490 17th Feb 2009 11:45

Airfield memorials - anyone know this "genius"?
 
:confused: Just come across this:

"We are delighted to announce that ABCT’s Director General, Kenneth Bannerman, will be unveiling four memorials in England to coincide with the 100th anniversary of Britain’s airfields."

According to the ABCT website, Mr Bannerman will be unveiling at Fambridge, Rivenhall, Leysdown and Bekesbourne airfields between Friday and Monday. There are plans for a memorial to be erected at each known disused airfield site in Britain.

Anyone know Mr Bannerman? On his website he says:

"You could almost say my life might be viewed as an allegory for our airfields. Academically I was seen as an enigma, once seriously being referred to as a genius somehow not that good at exams but still possessing an indefinable ‘something’ – again a bit like our airfields I suppose. Severe disillusionment after uncovering a conspiratorial revelation meant my efforts were therefore concentrated upon various bigger, futuristic ideas, in particular how to make money, writing and then this new airfield idea – all largely correlated and exactly what I do today."

:bored: Eh?

Postfade 17th Feb 2009 13:58

Thanks for pointing this site out...the newsletter I downloaded is full seemingly 'puffed up' adjectives praising the wonderful Mr Bannerman and his organisation..
"Our ...charity can without question clam to have produced a torrent of tremendous results"
"relentlessly mushroom into one of the most exciting and ultra-dynamic organisations ever seen"
"needed the grimly determined ploughing of a lonely furrow to turn a deceptively simple idea into the miracle that is toaday ABCT"
" we are indisputably talking of a sheer miracle"
etc etc. That's just the first couple of paragraphs of the one I read.

We are obviously extremely lucky to have this man and his brilliant organisation saving the nation's history.
I wonder if we could get him working on "The Vulcan To The Sky" project!
David Taylor.

forget 17th Feb 2009 14:50


There's something not quite right with all this...
Indeed! But what? The Walt Investigation Team needs to look into this. :hmm:

XV490 17th Feb 2009 18:27


We are obviously extremely lucky to have this man and his brilliant organisation saving the nation's history.
Yes, and it seems that others share that view, judging from some of the FB on the website, including:

"ABCT and Kenneth Bannerman are mounting perhaps the most shattering assault on perception ever seen in history. More power to their elbow."
N.S. Gloucestershire

"The name Kenneth Bannerman kept cropping up now and again in the airfield or aviation world. It had certainly once or twice crossed my mind who exactly was this enigmatic figure. But, my God, we know now. The myth is reality: you are the man and ABCT is the answer. Utterly, utterly brilliant."
- D.B., North Yorkshire

So now we know. Could he indeed save the Vulcan?

forget 17th Feb 2009 18:46

Hmmmm. The unusual use of words in the website 'back-slaps' is remarkably similar to that used by Bannerman himself. Could it be ................... :hmm:

skua 18th Feb 2009 09:56

He is to airfields as Mr Sandford is to cricket?

Skua

XV490 20th Feb 2009 16:38

Wasn't the Incredible Hulk a Mr Bannerman on his days off?

nacluv 22nd Feb 2009 09:43

Nearly - David Banner I believe!

Now, you may be interested to learn that Mr Bannerman's middle name is 'Peacock'. Certainly fits the self-aggrandisement in the write-ups!

XV490 23rd Feb 2009 08:18

It would seem Mr Bannerman's self-regard extends to the memorials themselves - check out the pictures here from the Rivenhall unveiling last Saturday.

Airfields that were the last terra firma for thousands of dead airmen are not the place for such vanity.

forget 23rd Feb 2009 08:37

Ridiculous! Fleeting web address on a granite memorial. :confused: Unveiled by 'Director General' ??? :confused: 'Dedicated to all units and personnel based here'. Present tense. :confused: I'll guard the Cambridgeshire borders. Volunteers needed for the rest of the country. :hmm:

Photograph removed, ref below.

REF 23rd Feb 2009 17:20

That is my photo in the post above and I'd rather you remove it from this debate on pprune. I do not wish to be associated with the views on this thread and any views I express will be made on the AiX forum.

If future, if you wish to use my images please ask first.

forget 23rd Feb 2009 20:24

As requested REF, I have removed your photograph. So as not to lose the gravity of the unveiling in question, by the self appointed Director General, a photograph by one of your colleagues, KB, is below. If KB wishes this removed then I will do so.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/kb.jpg

XV490 24th Feb 2009 08:18


That is my photo in the post above and I'd rather you remove it from this debate on pprune. I do not wish to be associated with the views on this thread and any views I express will be made on the AiX forum.
REF - It's understandable that, as one of the owners of the AiX website, you prefer not to align yourself with some of the views expressed here.

But perhaps you could post a photo of the Rivenhall memorial here yourself, without comment, so that PPRuNers can decide for themselves whether or not Mr Bannerman has got the balance right between commemoration and self promotion.

REF 24th Feb 2009 11:00

XV490, as you asked nicely!

Kenneth Bannerman with the ABCT Memorial at Communal Site of Rivenhall Airfield on 21st February 2009
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...enhall92-1.jpg

XV490 24th Feb 2009 11:07

Thanks, REF.

LookingNorth 24th Feb 2009 11:09

Lovely memorial to ABCT and one man's ego. Disgraceful. :yuk:

Kieron Kirk 24th Feb 2009 12:19

I have posted my comments on the ABCT site and e-mailed similar comments.

I think others have said what I would have said.

Sad.

Ciarain.

XV490 24th Feb 2009 12:29

Ciarain - Have your comments actually appeared on the ABCT website? Unless they're 100% supportive, I doubt they'll ever be seen.

Sad is right. I wish this man's pointless, egotistical campaign could be somehow stopped. But, as I said before, there's something not quite right with all this...

Kieron Kirk 24th Feb 2009 12:40

XV490

Posted and e-mailed about an hour ago.
Go to "feedback" then click "vox pop".
My comments have yet to appear.

Ciarain.

ps. XV490 was a 29 Squadron Phantom at Coningsby 12th June 1975!

XV490 25th Feb 2009 09:36

I note the AiX people are now understandably getting fired up by all this, even talking about objecting to ABCT's aims at local council planning level.

There can be few former military airfields left that don't already boast at least one memorial to their past. These will have been set up, by consensus, between all the interested parties, including veterans' groups and local communities. There is no need to impose additional, uninvited 'advertising' reminiscent of a gaggle of different estate agents' boards outside one house.

REF - Off-thread, do you think the AiXers could help solve The Prisoner airfield debate running on PPRuNe?


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