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Fris B. Fairing 16th Feb 2009 09:00

Mystery Aircraft Door
 
Can anyone identify this door please?

http://www.adastron.com/aviation/vault/door-0015.jpg

Here's the other side:

http://www.adastron.com/aviation/vault/door-0016.jpg

I've previously given this a run on Freight Dogs but without a result.

Rgds

MReyn24050 16th Feb 2009 14:51

As there appears to be no curvature on the door and the hinges look somewhat fragile for a main door, I think it is more likely to be an internal door, cabin to cockpit perhaps.

Storminnorm 16th Feb 2009 15:14

Looks like a toilet door.
Is there no info at all on that plate on it?

nacluv 16th Feb 2009 15:32

It is ventilated, which presumably rules out being an exterior door.

Have we positively ID'd it as being from an aircraft? If so, then I would go with MReyn24050's suggestion.

If not, then how about a bulkhead or electrical switchroom door from inside an old RSG building or similar?

wrecker 16th Feb 2009 16:10

It could be door into the dome equipment bay from the cabin on the Comet 4B

dash7fan 16th Feb 2009 16:32

It looks like a door between a cabin and a baggage compartment

Wodrick 16th Feb 2009 17:49

Comet Dome Freight door from the cabin was a sliding door from Left to Right looking aft I am assured by beloved who fly on them for more years than she would care to remember.

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU 16th Feb 2009 23:41

DH paintwork normally looks quite professional.

TheChitterneFlyer 17th Feb 2009 08:07

The paintwork and the fact that that it has a lockable handle would indeed suggest that it's an external door. It's certainly not from a Comet.

I wonder why it has four round windows... but that the interioir has four ventilation grilles?

Will Hung 17th Feb 2009 08:08

What are it's appx. dimensions & weight ?

WHBM 17th Feb 2009 08:42

What material is it made from ? It looks steel at casual glance, more like something from a ship.

SawThe Light 17th Feb 2009 20:20

Assuming that the grey painted surface is the "outside", the location of the hinges would dictate that it an was inward-opening door. That would rule out those compartments with little spare space.

The "exterior" grey paint with its black border is strange for an internal door though.

stevef 17th Feb 2009 21:56

[Assuming that the grey painted surface is the "outside", the location of the hinges would dictate that it an was inward-opening door.]

That's what I thought when I saw the original post in Freight Dogs. But I'm not so sure now though - the recently-added second photo shows an apparent flange on the right side, which suggests that the door is closed by pulling it towards you. An edge-on photo would be useful.
I stick with it being an internal door. Definitely aluminium alloy, definitely an aircraft part (I recognise the standard pitch of the MS20470 AD4 rivets :8).

dakkg651 18th Feb 2009 07:33

My dim and distant memory as an Air Cadet seems to remember that two tone colour on an internal door of an aircraft I once had a trip on.

Could it possibly be the radar compartment door from a Shackleton?

Or was it on a Beverley.

Oh I don't know, it was a long time ago!

dixi188 18th Feb 2009 07:54

STEVEF.

If it is a Brit made door, the rivets are probably SP85s.

Sad I isn't it!

Fris B. Fairing 18th Feb 2009 23:45

Update
 
On further enquiries, I am advised that the door is from "an Antonov" of unspecified type. Given that the door came from Brisbane Airport, one would have to imagine that it could have come only from an An-12 as several of these have been based here over the years whilst no other Russian types have been resident. The door has insufficient curvature to be an external door so it is most likely a cockpit door. The paint scheme suggests that it's an external door but apparently it's not unusual for An-12 interiors to be painted in two colours with a black cheatline. However, An-12 cockpit doors are rounded at the bottom whereas this one is straight. It has been suggested that it does conform to the shape of an An-2 (Two) cockpit door but we don't see many of them in BNE and it's probably too heavy anyway. The unusual pattern of portholes is unlike anything else I've seen. In addition to the 4 portholes which are clearly visible, there could be another 6 which appear to have been "bogged over".

While we continue to look for any identifying marks, I think the best line to follow is to try to find such a door on an An-12. Thanks everyone for your input.

Rgds

TheChitterneFlyer 19th Feb 2009 08:20

Airliners.net shows a similar door and paint scheme within an AN12.

Photos: Antonov An-12BP Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

The flight deck was the only pressurised area on the AN12 and this would account for the hefty engineering standard of the door. I'm not sure why there would be windows in it, but I suspect that they provide a 'blow-out' feature in the event of cabin overpressure; hence the grilles on the flight deck side of the door.

TCF

Fris B. Fairing 19th Feb 2009 08:32

TCF

Thanks for that. I too was looking at that image and it is a very close match except for the fact that the An-12 door is rounded at the bottom whereas ours is squared off.

Rgds

LowNSlow 19th Feb 2009 08:41

It looks like the door into the cockpit from the main cabin of a Mil-8 helicopter. Yes they are engineered like submarines!

They don't look like windows to me, more like mesh over the hole leading to the vents on the other side.

Fris B. Fairing 19th Feb 2009 08:52

LowNSlow

The shape is about right but the handle/hinges are on the wrong side.

Rgds


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