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India Four Two 7th Nov 2019 21:27

Having just watched the video showing the Sunderland "touch and go" at Wellington Airport, I was reminded that the first airshow I ever attended was at Bovingdon in the early 50s when I was about five.

My mother used to tell me that a Sunderland did a flyby, but unfortunately I don't remember that. The only thing I do remember is a dummy parachutist suspended from the roof inside a hangar. Obviously I must have been traumatized by the sight, in order for it to be imprinted on my memory for so many years. Luckily PTSD hadn't been invented then! ;)

brakedwell 8th Nov 2019 09:02

Very interesting India Four Two. I was a pilot on Coastal Command Com Flight Ansons and Valetta at Bovingdon for just over a year in 1961/62, awaiting an Argosy course after completing a two year tour on Twin Pioneers and Pembrokes on 152 Sqn in the Gulf. My first ever flight was in 1955 when we went down to Pembroke Dock on a two weeks CCF camp and flew almost every day in the Sunderlands based there, which made up my mind to join the RAF in 1955.

KING6024 9th Nov 2019 11:53

I flew from Bovingdon several times in 1956/8 as a member of the CCF,once in a Devon and several times in an Anson.The Communication Flights also had 2 Meteors,a T 7 and a NF??.There was also a RAF Dakota with a VIP interior which I never saw fly.Coastal Command visitors I saw were a Neptune and a Shackleton.I used to live quite close to Northwood. The USAF C47s were in and out all the time and I also saw a black Invader take off.Very noisy.

Colin.

India Four Two 9th Nov 2019 12:29


... flew almost every day in the Sunderlands ...
I'm jealous - I never saw an airborne Sunderland and am too young to have had the opportunity to fly in one. I have seen a Mars twice - once at a distance over Vancouver Island and then again at Oshkosh, where it did very impressive water drops on the airfield. I also travelled on a BC Airlines Mallard in the 70s. A colleague and I were traveling from Vancouver to Tofino airport. This was a round-robin trip, where the Mallard then flew on to Tahsis, a remote logging-community and then back to Vancouver.

The departure was delayed due to a mechanical issue - we could see, through the open rear door, a mechanic's legs as he lay head first in the tailcone! The captain came over to me and my colleague and asked, since we were the only passengers for Tofino, if he could fly to Tahsis first. So I got to experience a water-landing, taxi up the ramp and a subsequent glassy-water takeoff. We ran for over a mile!

treadigraph 9th Nov 2019 17:37

Lucky enough to see Kermit's Sandringham twice when Edward Hulton owned it - I wonder if Kermit will ever be able to fly it again. Mars is something I would love to see fly...

OUAQUKGF Ops 9th Nov 2019 17:45

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....611df3adbb.jpg
' Photographed at Bovingdon recently an unusual Douglas RB-26c-46DT Invader (44-35762). First to be noted in UK with an O Serial. Various bulges may be seen under the nose and rear fuselage. '

Originally Posted by KING6024 (Post 10614606)
The USAF C47s were in and out all the time and I also saw a black Invader take off.Very noisy.

Colin.

Perhaps it was this Invader described thus by Air Pictorial 1956-01.

India Four Two 9th Nov 2019 23:51

treadders, especially for you. ;) My video from Oshkosh. Wingspan is 200', 5' more than a 747-100. Dropping 18 tonnes of water!

Anchored at the Float Plane Base:
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9df11dd411.jpg

treadigraph 10th Nov 2019 04:48

Magic! Thanks I42. Sadly I don't have any vids of the Sandringham though I may unearth a photo or two one day.

OUAQUKGF Ops 11th Nov 2019 14:44

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....88062fcdb4.jpg
C123 date unknown. Probably operating the daily Weisbaden to Burtonwood Freight run with a stop off at Bovingdon.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bc1587bcb2.gif
Possibly in the mid to late 1950s. Photo credit bovingdon-airfield.co.uk

treadigraph 11th Nov 2019 20:01

Seeing that pic of the C-123... in the summer of '77 at my school a few miles south of Guildford, I was playing cricket and a high wing, twin radial engined transport droned NE towards London at about the height and on the same route that airliners approaching the Ockham hold followed. Without the aid of binoculars and mindful of the cricket ball being hoicked around the pitch, my glances identified it as a C-123 - pretty sure it wasn't a Pembroke or a Sea Prince. Can't think of anything else it might have been, but did the USAF have any in Europe as late as that? Might have been civvy one being ferried somewhere interesting I suppose.

Occasionally saw USN C-131s or C-118s on the same route as I recall, inbound Northolt.

chevvron 12th Nov 2019 06:03


Originally Posted by treadigraph (Post 10616429)
Seeing that pic of the C-123... in the summer of '77 at my school a few miles south of Guildford, I was playing cricket and a high wing, twin radial engined transport droned NE towards London at about the height and on the same route that airliners approaching the Ockham hold followed. Without the aid of binoculars and mindful of the cricket ball being hoicked around the pitch, my glances identified it as a C-123 - pretty sure it wasn't a Pembroke or a Sea Prince. Can't think of anything else it might have been, but did the USAF have any in Europe as late as that? Might have been civvy one being ferried somewhere interesting I suppose.

Occasionally saw USN C-131s or C-118s on the same route as I recall, inbound Northolt.

More likely it was a US Navy C1 Trader.
Whenever a USN carrier approached UK waters, they would 'fly off' mail and anything else important to Northolt.
I 'controlled' several of these flights from Farnborough in the '70s/'80s, the Trader not being retired until 1988; I don't think any C123s operated in Europe after about 1970.
I remember C123s (and C130s) departing Bovingdon in the '60s; their 'standard' departure route took them towards Beacon Hill fan marker near Princes Risborough which meant they passed directly over my home town, Chesham,

treadigraph 12th Nov 2019 06:09

Good call Chevvron, that would very likely have been it! Cheers!

OUAQUKGF Ops 20th Jan 2020 21:38

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b4308ab145.jpg
B17 of 92nd BG Bovingdon September 1942. Photographed by Charles Brown.

Credit Roger Freeman Collection, Imperial War Museum


B17 Accident Cow Roast Berkhamsted:24.10.44. 91st Bomb Group U.S.A.A.F.B-17G 43-38398 1/lt. DeLisle Location of crash: Cow Roast, near Berkhampstead, Herts. England.

OUAQUKGF Ops 22nd Jan 2020 09:22

Bovingdon Bound
 
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0540eff7b0.jpg


https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/18831


OUAQUKGF Ops 27th Jan 2020 18:30

I came across this rather lovely image from Bovingdon which filled me with nostalgia. It should be displayed here but due to finger trouble it's placed last! Halifax G-AILO was reduced to scrap in 1952. I sent a copy of the photo to my oldest pal David whose father Captain Gordon Rayment was with LAC and then Skyways before sadly he was killed in 1958.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....236f161fb4.jpg


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8d9c914933.jpg
David says his Father is the shorter of the three.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bf7556d35c.jpg

David supplied these snaps from his dad's logbook of G-AILO at Hong Kong having delivered a cargo uplifted in Hamburg. Routing was as follows:Bovingdon (30/4/51) - Hamburg 1/5 - Rome - Nicosia 2/5 - Bahrain (5/5 Hydraulics u/s at Bahrain) - Karachi - Delhi 6/5 - Calcutta - Bangkok - Hong Kong (9/5) - Calcutta - Karachi (11/5) - Bahrain - Nicosia - Malta - Bovingdon (13/5)

PAXboy 27th Jan 2020 21:43

The top two pics look HLG could have been in '52. Is that last at Kai Tak? Some seriously long sectors to get there.

OUAQUKGF Ops 28th Jan 2020 08:12

The first two photographs are of Hong Kong in May 1951. The last photograph was taken at Bovingdon- date unknown.

chevvron 28th Jan 2020 09:55


Originally Posted by OUAQUKGF Ops (Post 10673505)
The first two photographs are of Hong Kong in May 1951. The last photograph was taken at Bovingdon- date unknown.

West side of the airfield near Whelpley Hill I would guess.

OUAQUKGF Ops 29th Jan 2020 16:46

Yes Chevvron I agree. I remember playing on the Halifax hulks on the dispersals near Whelpley Hill. So far I've not been able to track down any images of the dumps. Perhaps G-AILO is about to be scrapped? She was withdrawn from use in August 1951. The life of these useful aeroplanes was short-lived. Apart from an unhealthy accident rate, lack of work post Berlin Airlift and a shortage of spares hastened their demise. Here is an image of G-AKXT of The Lancashire Aircraft Corporation which was scrapped at Bovingdon in December 1950. No location is given for the photograph but it could well be Bovingdon, the area looks suitably derelict!



https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....24a69e5c0e.jpg
Photocredit NA3T.

OUAQUKGF Ops 31st Jan 2020 09:29

John Young's Album
 
https://www.key.aero/forum/historic-...viation-artist


https://www.cheshamgolf.co.uk/wp-con...John-Young.pdf






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