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Wingnuts 1st Dec 2008 00:06

CAT, in Bali, is fuelled up for its flight to Darwin tomorrow, ETA 1700.

It is expected to take 1hr to clear customs on Bay 1 of the passenger terminal, then taxi to the General Aviation Area to park in the vicinity of Hardy’s, possibly beside its brother in arms, the DC3.

After two gruelling weeks on the road, the Cat is now within a whisker of Oz.

For more of the tale, see today’s Newsletter at:

Dec 2008

Wingnuts 2nd Dec 2008 06:48

CAT has landed in Darwin.

Wow !!!! While us young blokes sit around on our bums and talk about aviating, these old codgers are doing it!

Tomorrow, all day in Darwin, departs for Cairns Thursday morning, ETA 1700.

DARWIN
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Pedota 2nd Dec 2008 07:51

Catalina arrives in Darwin . . .
 
Good to see another of these magnificant aircraft gracing our shores . . . they have a significant connection with this country. Another one is located at the RAAF Museum in Bull Creek WA.

WWII flying boat arrives in Darwin


A flying relic of WWII and a reminder of the sacrifice Australian airmen made to defend the nation from the Japanese has flown into Darwin.

About 170 Catalinas went behind enemy lines during the war to lay mines, undertake bombing runs and do reconnaissance against the Japanese.

Most of them were based in northern Australia and more than 300 airmen were killed flying them.

The Catalina that's flown into Darwin today wasn't used to defend Australia, but was found in Portugal and lovingly restored by a group of enthusiasts and the Sydney based Catalina Flying Memorial.

It uses 400 litres of fuel every hour in-flight and has cost more than $350,000 to restore and bring from Europe to Australia.

The Catalina flies to Cairns next and will travel down the east coast until it reaches a museum in Rathmines in New South Wales.

It's now the second operational Catalina in Australia, but the only one that can operate from the land and the water.

The wrecks of six Catalinas used to defend Australia are in Darwin Harbour.

tinpis 2nd Dec 2008 10:11

Jim on darwhine telly news tonight looked suitably ancient :ok:

CoodaShooda 2nd Dec 2008 21:46

News this morning is that the tax man is demanding $20,000 to allow them to continue.............:mad:

tnuc 2nd Dec 2008 23:39

It is called Import GST

tinpis 3rd Dec 2008 05:31

$20k tax?
A lot of Mateus Rose :hmm:

Stationair8 3rd Dec 2008 05:38

Looked good on the ABC news at midday.

Round engines are real engines.

Brings back fond memories of watching VH-EXG operating in and out of our local aerodrome dong survey work in the 1970's.

So Tinnpis slipping out for a few circuits before after drinks?

richardpurdy7 3rd Dec 2008 08:01

Correction to crew listing
 
The correct crew listing is:
Jim Hazelton
Geoff Hazelton
Chris Goezinne
Richard Purdy
Hal Griffiths
Bernie van Surksum

Dog One 3rd Dec 2008 09:04

Does any one know the ETD of the Cat ex Darwin tomorrow morning? I am overnighting and would like to see it depart.

notop 3rd Dec 2008 10:25

I belive after talking to Jim he wants to leave at 0630.

Diesel Fitter 3rd Dec 2008 14:26

If QANTAS truly calls Australia home
 
It will pick up the piddling $15k tab for this miserable example of Australia Customs jobsworths at their bureaucratic best - never mind the sterling role which Qantas and RAAF Catalinas played in World War Two.


The charity group which has brought a World War II flying boat to Darwin has to pay Australian authorities $15,000 in taxes.

The Catalina arrived in Darwin late yesterday afternoon as part of its journey from Portugual to a New South Wales museum where it will be a permanent reminder of the aircraft's role in defending Australia.

About 170 Catalinas flew behind enemy lines during the war to lay mines, undertake bombing runs, and do reconnaissance against the Japanese.

Most of them were based in Northern Australia and more than 300 airmen were killed flying them.

The charity group, volunteers, and museum have spent $350,000 restoring the aircraft and bringing it from Europe to Australia.

The charity's spokesman Phillip Dulhunty says raising the funds was an epic struggle that the group only just managed.

He says he is "shocked" to find out Australian customs want $15,000.

"It's another expense we hadn't allowed for and which we haven't got," he said.

"We hope that we might apply and try and get that back, but that's a bit doubtful I'm told."

The crew plans to fly to Cairns next and visit several WWII bases before reaching the museum.
Catalina crew hit with $15k tax bill - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

galdian 3rd Dec 2008 14:42

.........or maybe GD could pay out of the reported $12.0 million he pocketed as he walked out of his golden doors for the last time! :ok:

What a sterling gesture that would be - from a very firmly dollar-orientated individual.

Of course he might even be able to claim that on tax as donating to a "charity." :eek:

Talk about win-win! :D:D:D:D:D:D

TurbTool 3rd Dec 2008 15:04

Is this Catalina an ex-RAAF aircraft? If so it shouldn't incur any tax. If not then tax would be payable.

Why should QANTAS pick up any tax bill, that was oversighted by any group, (even well intentioned volunteers who haven't done their homework) at the expense of QF passengers, and staff?

In reality you should be asking the Australian Defence Force or the Government to pick up the bill , not private enterprise.

No sympathy here, I am afraid.

Diesel Fitter 3rd Dec 2008 15:24

Turbtool
 
So you appear unaware of the significant close links between QF and the Catalinas?

The routes that the QF Catalinas flew?

And the senior Qantas execs that flew them?

OK - I guess Generation x,y,z - whatever babes in 2008 have a different perspective to those that actually know and respect the significance of the Catalina era and it's relevance to QF.

TBM-Legend 3rd Dec 2008 19:30

Queensland Vintage Aeroplane Group Australian Flying Museum Inc.
PO Box 794 Archerfield Qld 4108.

ABN : 768 659 346 84

Good morning Folks,




This Saturday (06/12), a PBY-6A Catalina is scheduled to arrive at Caboolture Airport.
The Catalina (VH-CAT) is making its way to Sydney on the final legs of its ferry flight from Portugal and at this point in time, its ETA and ETD for Caboolture are as follows.


ETA: 10:30AM

ETD: 11:30AM

The Catalina will be visiting Caboolture for the purpose of conducting some photography with the Mustang Fighter Trust's P-51 Mustang (VH-MFT)! the Mustang will be conducting 4-6 flights on that day.

Information about the Catalina can be found here Catalina Flying Memorial

Chuck Ellsworth 3rd Dec 2008 19:42


No sympathy here, I am afraid.


Of course with that self centered attitude you wouldn't want to go for a flight in it would you Turb Tool?

tail wheel 3rd Dec 2008 19:47

If the restoration group is registered for GST, one assumes they can reclaim the $15,000 in their December BAS? It is probably only a loan they require, not a donation.

Wingnuts 4th Dec 2008 00:07

CAT should be well and truly on its way to Cairns, arriving about 5 pm with a few circuits around the city.

Give us a wave as you pass ‘the Knob’ on approach.

Despite her marathon flight, the old girl looked in pretty good shape at Darwin. Always a good sign, the 1830s were dripping their usual ‘few’ drops of oil.

Yesterday the cabin received a through cleaning under the vigilant supervision of Quarantine to eradicate any bird or horse flu bugs that may have been lurking.
Inside it was like a sauna, the huge 15’ chord wing offered little protection from the 35 degree heat and 87% humidity. But now we can all sleep peacefully knowing the US Navy biscuit crumbs and 65 years of accumulated grime and dust have been vacuumed from the bilges.

Friday will be an early departure to arrive Bowen at about 9am for a 2 hr PR stop, followed by a Maroochydore overnight.

Saturday, it is Caboolture, Coffs Harbour for more PR, then to Kempsey at mid afternoon for the night.

How the actual schedule plays out will be determined by the storms that are forecast for SE Queensland.

As the Bankstown finish line comes into view and the well deserved accolades for getting CAT to Australia are paid out, sometimes the ones left behind at the beginning of the project can be overlooked. Following on from the disappointment of the aborted ferry attempt last year due to an engine failure on takeoff, it was the locals of Seia, Portugal, who again stepped up and did much of the hands-on-work that contributed to this year’s success. They being, to name but two, Miguel Pinto Figueiredo and José Saraiva. Thanks. The Seians could not do enough to help.

Speaking of the community of Seia, CAT sat for 8 years in a paddock at an essentially deserted, bush strip (only active during summer fire season) with just a 3 strand barbwire fence for security. No graffiti, no broken windows, nothing stolen, untouched. Again, thanks.

Mick Elcoate 4th Dec 2008 00:29

Hey Wingnuts, where do you recon the best spot to get a photo of this bird would be this arve? (dont say Mt. Whitfield)


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