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evansb 23rd Oct 2008 16:28

As you say the aircraft is powered by a British-built engine, and the landing gear appears to have Avro design elements, is the aircraft from eastern Europe?

RETDPI 23rd Oct 2008 16:40

The aircraft is not from Eastern Europe.

fire-fox 23rd Oct 2008 18:16

first go at this but lookes like a Boeing p-12 or F4b3

RETDPI 23rd Oct 2008 18:25

Good first shot fire-fox.

Better luck next time.
The aircraft is late 1930's BTW.

fire-fox 23rd Oct 2008 18:58

avro tutor?

EDIT: never mind thay have two seats :ugh: (unless there where one or two Cut and Shut modder's then too):O

RETDPI 23rd Oct 2008 19:03

Hi Fire-Fox,
The aircraft is not from Western Europe..........

S'land 23rd Oct 2008 22:21

How about a complete change of location? The Liuchow Kwangsi Type 3 from China?

RETDPI 24th Oct 2008 05:43

Very well done S'land. !
It is indeed the one-off Liuchow Kwangsi Type Three ( From the Liuchow Mechanical and Aircraft Factory, Kwangsi Province)
It was powered by a Cheetah and flew around July 1937.
Your tenacity paid off:D
You have control.

S'land 24th Oct 2008 11:37

Thanks RETDPI, that was an excellent challenge. I only found the answer due to the clues that you gave.

Here is the next challenge, a much easier one, I hope.

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p...g?t=1224844603

Dick Whittingham 24th Oct 2008 11:56

Caproni-Campini (sp?) hybrid piston/jet.

If correct, open house

Dick

S'land 24th Oct 2008 12:09

See, I said it would be easy. Well done Dick Whittingham.

The Caproni – Campini N.1. / CC 2 was an Italian, two seat, experimental Motor-jet aircraft designed by Engineer Secondo Campini (who later went to the U.S.A. and worked on the YB-49 Flying Wing Bomber) and built by Caproni. It employed a Isotta Fraschini radial engine which drove a variable pitch, ducted fan compressor. Additional fuel could be burnt in the tailpipe to increase thrust. The N.1. / CC 2 first flew on 27 August 1940 at Taliedo with Mario de Bernadi at the controls. This made Italy the second nation to fly a jet aircraft. In September 1942 the project was put into storage.

Two prototypes (MM447 and MM448) and a non-flying ground test-bed were manufactured. After WWII MM447 was taken to the RAE at Farnborough for study. The second is on display at the Museo Storico Dell’aeronautica Militaire Vigna di Valle near Rome. The ground test-bed is in the Museo della Scienza technical in Milan.


Some interesting pictures and info here:
CC-2


Open House.



evansb 25th Oct 2008 00:59

Although not a true silhouette, here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r.../WSH081025.gif

RETDPI 25th Oct 2008 07:47

Arsenal VG-33?

evansb 25th Oct 2008 11:38

RETDPI is correct.:ok: You have control.

RETDPI 25th Oct 2008 12:01

Thanks evansb,
Bit difficult to have given a clue for that last one without being indelicate.

Now what am I bid for this historically significant aeroplane?

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...ck/Zia0001.jpg

evansb 26th Oct 2008 01:45

Okay, I see a low-profile windscreen and no guns are visible. A clean design for the era. Is it a racer from western Europe?

RETDPI 26th Oct 2008 08:31

When this aircraft was constructed, the aviation industries of Western Europe were facing some rather more immediate design considerations than those of air racing. Indeed one can see Sopwith fighter practice hinted at ( e.g. in the undercarriage and struts) in this machine's features.
Also evident is what made this aircraft particularly historically significant.

S'land 26th Oct 2008 10:56

For me the significant feature is the "I" strut. How about either a SPAD V or SPAD 20?

RETDPI 26th Oct 2008 11:16

This one wasn't from the S.P.A.D. stable , but you're getting warm.

Dick Whittingham 26th Oct 2008 12:05

There appear to be guns firing through the prop, but this was sorted out ages before this design, surely?

A Nieuport of some kind?

Dick


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