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brickhistory 28th Apr 2008 18:12

Victor cockpit visibility?
 
How was it?

rej 28th Apr 2008 19:01

I suppose it depended on how many of the crew were chuffing their pipes :E

brickhistory 28th Apr 2008 19:20


I suppose it depended on how many of the crew were chuffing their pipes
True, but the smoke would rise and only cloud the view looking up. :ok:

I'm curious about the view forward for taxi, landing, etc.

Having learned a little about the Vulcan, I'm attempting the same here.

BEagle 28th Apr 2008 19:31


Victor cockpit visibility
An oxymoron, surely?

Although ex-Victor chums such as Art Field and Mr Bernoulli will provide more proper comment!

peterperfect 28th Apr 2008 20:00

I googled "view from a victor cockpit" and found a few shots and anecdotes, however best to hear it from the horse's mouth when the ppruning Victor chums start their alert duty ! pp

Background Noise 28th Apr 2008 20:13

Don't suppose you wanted too much vis when the big bomb went off.

forget 28th Apr 2008 20:13

If you're really serious;

Alphasim Handley-Page Victor HP.80 Prototype Pack No.1 Textures Only ..... The model has virtual cockpit with full 3D: gauges, switches, instruments.

http://www.simviation.com/files/comm...Victor_PK1.zip

Top West 50 28th Apr 2008 20:21

I came back to flying the Victor, in an examining capacity, having spent a few years on other transport and AAR aircraft. I had a fair amount of time on the Victor previously but was somewhat unprepared for the poor vision from the flight deck - I said to my examining colleague - "its like looking through a letter-box!"

Dan Winterland 29th Apr 2008 01:19

"You can see what?"

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...py/seewhat.jpg

And don't ask Mr Bernoulli. He never looked out anyway! ;)

Gainesy 29th Apr 2008 07:58

Wasn't a sponge tied to a snooker cue an essential bit of kit to remove condensation?

Art Field 29th Apr 2008 10:06

TW 50, Hi, you beat me to it,I agree the postbox feeling. If you add that the glass often seemed frosted especially when it rained, you would be thankful for the DV window provided you could crouch down to look out of it. Otherwise vision was perfect. So what she was an amazing aircraft. EOSM37, by sitting in a Victor.

forget 29th Apr 2008 10:31

brick, you may have seen this - it includes a couple of brief shots from inside. You'll work out which is Avro and which is HP. Brilliant production :ok::ok:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PO-KaDtzmcU

Alex Whittingham 29th Apr 2008 11:49

There was a maximum of 18º (?) pitch up indicated on the AI, beyond that you couldn't see the horizon out the front so you had to try and fly visually looking sideways out of the DV window to assess your pitch. Scary.

uffington sb 29th Apr 2008 11:50

Forget,

Nice vid thanks.

But why is there a Gp Capt ADC in the RHS and LHS?

forget 29th Apr 2008 12:44


But why is there a Gp Capt ADC in the RHS and LHS?
No idea - but the Vulcan at 1:42 is reversed. If you're really really bored, you'll see why from the one at 6:45. :8

4mastacker 29th Apr 2008 12:57


But why is there a Gp Capt ADC in the RHS and LHS?

Marham's station commander perhaps? The gentleman who held that post in the early nineties did seem to spend a lot of time with 55 Sqn.

uffington sb 29th Apr 2008 17:04

Yes I know the staish at Marham is an ADC having E"R on the four rings on account of having her madge's country house in his/her back yard, but I can't be that bored.
Besides I'm on my third bottle of Old Rosie.

DaveyBoy 29th Apr 2008 17:39


No idea - but the Vulcan at 1:42 is reversed.
I didn't know they could reverse!!! :ok:

ZH875 29th Apr 2008 18:09


Originally Posted by forget (Post 4081586)
No idea - but the Vulcan at 1:42 is reversed. If you're really really bored, you'll see why from the one at 6:45. :8

You obviously had a slack moment or two to spot that one.:ok:

Yep, you are a :8.

effortless 29th Apr 2008 18:17

Can someone elucidate as to why Vulcan carried on so long and Victor didn't? The discussion passed me by at the time. What was wrong with Victor?


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