We are not left with many so how about something from the House of Heinkel such as the 177?
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Lars, you're right about there not being many makers left.....
unhappily for you its not from Heinkel either (as white bear found out earlier:}) |
unhappily for you its not from Heinkel either One is tempted to say the FW 191 |
And, on further research it proves to be the case so I will say the FW 191
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Spot on Lars:D- it is as you say the FW 191:
http://www.luft46.com/prototyp/fw191-12.jpg Only 3 were built due to changing specifications and requirements and they were flown with (very) underpowered BMW 801 engines. Defensive weapons installation is interesting in that it was originally meant to be remotely controlled barbettes: http://www.luft46.com/prototyp/fw191-10.jpg http://www.luft46.com/prototyp/fw191-5.jpg The airframe was apparently a sound and efficient design, the aircraft was let down by the lack of engines in the 2500hp class, a fate which bedevilled several German designs. You have control, Sir |
Thank you sir. I have to say that German aircraft of WW2 with those greenhouse things at the front can be very confusing. The search was interesting.
Next: http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...pitquiz509.jpg I will be back at about 0400Z |
Something like the R.A.F. BE2c?
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I haven't a clue what it is, but I've got to ask....is that a pencil sharpener on the right? On an otherwise almost bare panel, it might be useful.
If not, what on earth is it? |
The pencil sharpener is a Bosch magneto ignition switch.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...oschMagnet.jpg |
The pencil sharpener is a Bosch magneto ignition switch. |
lar's challenge
The Heinkel HD-35 (Swedish designation SK5).
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You are coooorrrect!:ok: :D
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...harter/sk5.jpg The aircraft was delivered in August 1925. It carried Heinkel’s c/n 235 and got the military registration 66, which also later became its Air Force number. The evaluations at Malmen were finished in March 1927. At this time the Air Force was nearly one year old. The HD 35 now carried the designation Sk 5 and the earlier Army Aviation establishment at Malmen had formed the Air Force Wing F 3. The HD 35 showed itself too heavy and was, together with its not too strong engine, not a suitable trainer aircraft. The single Sk 5 was transferred to the War Flying School F 5 at Ljungbyhed, where the photo above was taken in 1926. There it became the personal aircraft of the head of the school, the legendary Navy aviator Captain Arvid Flory. The Sk 5 was written off in the summer of 1929. It was sold to the civil market and got the registration SE-SAM. It was flown by several pilots until 1940, when it was grounded for good. The aircraft still exists and is owned by Flygvapenmuseum. It is under restoration by a volountary group at Tullinge former Air Force base (F 18) near Stockholm. |
evansb's challenge
Here is the next 'What cockpit?'
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...40/3937606.jpg |
evansb's challenge
USA - Coast Guard's Dassault HU-25C Guardian perhaps?
Mel |
Amazing to see how much of the B29/B47 look that FW191 had - or was it vice-versa?
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The panel colour, instrument appearance and multi-function controls look more like Russian manufacture, but the layout doesn't match anything familiar.
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AB. Chronologically the Focke Wulf design predates the B29 design but only just. I think that the similarities are coincidental however- Heinkel Dornier, Bell and no doubt others I can't think of right now had all designed or flown aircraft with a fully glazed contoured nose in or before either of the types you talk about had flown.
F2 my thoughts were exactly the same, but confusingly all the placarding and instrumentation appears Anglicised (at least the bits I can make out) As a result I shall run away bravely so someone else can ident it. Still strip gauges, electro mech instruments and what looks like an early IN by the co puts me in mind of late 70s kit. Not an An72 Coaler or variant thereof? |
Please can we have confirmation that it's a Russian twin jet?
I wonderd if it's a Beriev amphibian but note that the BE-200 has a digital flight deck and it's forerunner, the A-40 looks very different (although the flight deck background is that same bluish colur!). |
Please can we have confirmation that it's a Russian twin jet?
I wondered if it's a Beriev amphibian but note that the BE-200 has a digital flight deck and it's forerunner, the A-40 looks very different (although the flight deck panel background is that same bluish colur!). |
That is definitely a Falcon cockpit, my guess is the Coast Guard aircraft as Mel said or the Falcon 200. Or perhaps the Falcon 20-731.
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evansb's challenge
Mel and con-pilot are correct.:ok: It is a Dassault Falcon 20, operated by the U.S. Coast Guard under the designation HU-25 Guardian. Mel has control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r.../Hu-2520P4.jpg |
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Thanks for that Bri. Here is the next one. I apologise for the poor quality of the photograph.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...itquiz290a.jpg Mel |
Radial engine... 60HP'ish??
Something I`ve never heard of :) .. so how about a Mauboussin Monoplane? |
Mel's Challenge
Sorry not a Mauboussin Monoplane. This aircraft was not a monoplane.
Mel |
Very tentatively it looks more like a rotary than a radial to me so ....
Mr Sopwiths Salamander? |
Mels Challenge
kitbag
This aircraft was powered by a water cooled radial engine she first flew a couple of years earlier than the Sopwith Salamander. Mel |
Salmson engined?
The Russain Anasal perhaps? |
Mels Challenge
Salmson engined - yes. The Russain Anasal - no.
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I shall stick with the Russian theme and suggest a Lebed product; possibly the XII
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Mel's Challenge
larssnowpharter. Sorry Lars you are on a the wrong track, this aircraft was not from Russia.
Mel |
Maybe its the Salmson 2A.2? http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...almson-2a2.jpg
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Maybe its the Salmson 2A.2? |
Mel's Challenge
Akubra Is correct it is indeed the instrument panel of the Salmson 2A2.:ok::D
The Salmson Motor Company founded in 1890 by Émile Salmson and based in Boulogne-Billancourt, near Paris, was originally an automobile company. During the First World War, it built aircraft engines, generally 9- and later 18-cylinder water-cooled radial engines developed from the Swiss Canton-Unné design. The company's first entry into aircraft design came with the Salmson-Moineau S.M. 1, an unusual three-seat reconnaissance biplane with twin airscrews gear-driven from a single Salmson engine in the nose of the fuselage. These aircraft, of which 155 were built, were not especially successful. The Salmson 2 developed from a requirement to replace the Sopwith 1˝ Strutter and Dorand A.R. reconnaissance aircraft in the A2 (tactical reconnaissance) role. Salmson had built the 1˝ Strutter under license, and the Salmson 2, while an original design, owed more to the Sopwith than to the earlier Salmson-Moineau. The aircraft was of conventional construction, powered by the company's own 9Z water-cooled radial engine of 230 bhp. Japan undertook license production as the "Army Type Otsu 1", also known as the Kawasaki-Salmson. About 600 were built initially, half by Kawasaki, half by the Imperial Japanese Army's Tokorozawa supply depot. Further orders may have brought the total built in Japan to around a thousand. My challenge photograph is of the instrument panel of a Japanese Salmson 2A2. Windriver. This is a French Drawing showing the instrument layout. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...nelDrawing.jpg Canton offered an S2 biplane powered by two 230 hp Canton-Unné engines. The main armament was to be four Lewis machine guns, firing forwards and downwards; a fifth gun was provided to defend the rear. This aircraft was found totally unacceptable. The armour plate was relatively thin at 4 mm, but nevertheless the Canton aircraft struggled to get off the ground when fitted with it. According to test reports, it could not climb higher than about 30 m, probably barely out of ground effect. Akubra you have control :) |
Heres the next challenge, Sorry about the quality.
I doubt it will last very long. http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...ubra/wcp44.jpg |
Is it from de Havilland?
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Is it from de Havilland? |
De Havilland Leopard Moth perhaps
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MReyn24050 has it!:ok:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Leopard_Moth The photo is indeed A DH 85 that is specially equipped for blind flying. Photo taken from the article, Art and Craft of Airmanship 2 " First steps to Flying" By Major Oliver Stewart, M.C., A.F.C |
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Thanks Akubra, a very interesting challenge, certainly a different panel.
I am sure this next one will be no problem. Mel http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...pitquiz291.jpg |
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