Not Aurora or any other stealth aircraft.
This aircraft's job description was much more mundane, though it did attract military interest. Designed by engineers formerly employed by a major (at the time) light aircraft manufacturer, this bird utilised three of the latest design concepts when it first flew. Edit: A few clues, because that photo doesn't give away much. (Best I could do, though; it's a frame from a video clip. I'll post the link to the clip eventually.) Think late 1930s, a somewhat unusual configuration, and excellent visibility for the aircrew. |
All the glazing makes it look vaguely helicopter-ish a bit like the Sikorsky R5, but it isn't that, pilot appears to be Australian or American. Appears to have control wheels rather than columns. I suspect it is late 30's early 40's, abandoned due to WWII? Convinced its rotary, but can't pin it down.
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Despite appearances, Kitbag, it's not a rotary-wing aircraft.
Also not Australian. You're quite correct re late 1930s and "abandoned due to WWII." |
Not Mr Abrams Explorer? Layout like an Edgely Optica but flown by Flash Gordon!
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Well done, Kitbag!:ok: It is the Abrams Explorer. You have control.
http://xs121.xs.to/xs121/07485/abrams_3.jpg Although the designers of the Explorer did not invent tricycle landing gear, twin booms or cabin pressurisation, the Abrams company successfully used all three on this 1937 aircraft. The Explorer was doing government survey flights when WWII began. Although the Abrams could top 200 mph, the US Army decided to use faster, more survivable, fighter aircraft instead. Only one Explorer was built; it is now owned by the Smithsonian. There is a short, but interesting, video clip at... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsaAe...eature=related Glenn |
Sadly my fund of suitable cockpit photos is still empty, although I have great hopes of a recent investment.
However as before - open house gents Just a note added to say I liked the video of the Abrams, especially the clipped commentary Fantastic:ok: |
On the other hand, just came across this little beaut:)
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...eston/WC24.jpg |
Kitbag's challenge
Beauty! Check your PM.
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PM checked. Turn about. Your move.
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Ahh...well, I would prefer some other ppruner identify the cockpit outside of a PM, but if you are really giving me control without identifying
the cockpit, hmm..let me think about this until I have at least 6 hours rest, thanks. |
Congrats to evansb for identifying the mystery cockpit, but I'm baffled. I haven't even worked out how the pilot saw out of the aircraft.
Someone please tell all. :O Glenn |
I haven't even worked out how the pilot saw out of the aircraft. |
What is the machine with the mystery cockpit - for us unwashed?
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The fenestration looks rather like a Wittman Tailwind, but the panel looks rather older and European (French?)
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Reminds me of a crop-sprayer I once had some fun in.....but that doesn't account for the dual rudder pedals, if that's what they are.
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It is a 1929 St. Louis C2-110 Super Cardinal. Only 6 were built. It is powered by a 100-hp Kinner radial engine. Open house.
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Well, that fell into the 'not in a million years' category. This, however, is a 'just to keep the game going', as my sister used to say before cleaning me out at Monopoly.
http://i2.tinypic.com/8atw8ex.jpg |
Looks like the pilot really wanted to make sure he never got lost!...
Where to start? Having confused a Buccaneer with a Javelin on another thread I have no more face to lose... Is the disconnected monocycle "thingy" in the top left of the picture of any relevance to the subject aircraft. So for starters is this some sort of US "record breaker" type aircraft? |
fitter 2's challenge...
Lot of "where am I?" gadgets, but no engine instruments, and what looks like a speedbrake handle on the left. A sailplane set up for distance events, me thinks.
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Lots of 'where am I' indeed (there actually 4 independant GPS visible, and another one out of sight), but there is an engine instrument/control bottom left. Given the duplicated sensitive VSIs, a sailplane would be a good start.
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Definitely a glider, as indicated by the yellow tow release handle and the wings of the one in front.
Back seat of an open-class two seater. As the ASH-25 is out because of the split canopy, one would say Schemp-Hirth Nimbus 4D Is the disconnected monocycle "thingy" in the top left of the picture of any relevance to the subject aircraft. |
Perhaps the Duo Discus turbo.
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Incivil Beast is correct - the rear cockpit of a Nimbus 4DM. The flap handle on the left ruled out the DuoDiscus, although the cockpit differences from a 3D are quite small (the handling is another matter).
Beast has control. . |
Even if one got the ident wrong, one wishes to put on record that one did one's 500 km in wood and fabric with a map and a compass and NOT 4 GPS thingies!!!!!:eek:
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larssnowpharter's comment...
I feel your pain, Lars...
The most sophisticated sailplane I ever flew was a 1-32, which dates me with the dinosaurs, too. No electrics at all, let alone GPS. Ah, well, we can look at it this way: The old memories come free with the other pleasures of being an old foop! Cheers, Glenn |
Next Challenge
To keep the thread going here is the next one.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...pitquiz298.jpg Mel |
Sorry, have been away and busy for all the day.
Handley-Page 0/400 per chance ? |
Mel's Challenge
the incivil beast. :uhoh: I do apologise for jumping in, I just looked back and noticed that by rights it is your throw. If you wish I will remove my photograph. It is not the Handley-Page 0/400 by the way.
Mel |
No problem, leave it where it is, the show must go on.
If you don't mind, I'll just slip my pic in before the next winner's. Looks rather like a post WWI transport, Farman F-60 Goliath ? |
Mel's challenge
An "Aero-Limousine" built by the Grahame-White Aviation Company of Hendon, England.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...ite_hendon.jpg |
Mels Challenge
evansb has it once again :ok:. It is the Grahame-White Aero-Limousine.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...-Limousine.jpg You have control |
Thanks Mel! A great challenge! I understand it was designated the model E-8, and was the last Grahame-White aircraft built. Breguet, Salmson and Westland have also produced models named "Limousine". Here is the next 'What cockpit?'
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...40/6754609.jpg |
Piper Cherokee 235? Or a Cherokee 6.
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If not the Cherokee 6... a Commanche perhaps.
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Sorry gents, she is not American made. There is an obscure American connection to the aircraft, however.
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Sorry, I should have looked closer at the rudder peddles, not Piper.
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evansb's challenge
That looks like an Italian job to me i.e.SIAI-Marchetti S-205-20R perhaps?
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Mel, you are spot on as usual:ok: The SIAI Marchetti S-205 first flew in 1964, and production continued until 1975, initially. Production was resumed in Italy from 1977 until 1980. Power ranged from 180-hp to 300-hp. WACO Aircraft in the United States assembled a 4-place version called the S-220 Sirius, and a 5-place version called the S-220-5 Vela, and may have been the last aircraft built by WACO. You have control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...rchetti205.jpg |
The floor belongs to the incivil beast.
Thanks for that Bri. The floor is really the incivil beast's as I jumped in before he had a chance to post after winning control by getting fitter2's challange at Post #422.
Mel |
I'm currently away from my home computer, on which I have a pic ready to post. If you can wait until this evening, that is.
Otherwise, I don't mind Mel posting an easy :E one to keep the thread running ... |
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