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l.garey 20th Aug 2007 09:19

Airfields in UAE/Oman
 
I wonder if anyone can help identify an old abandoned airfield situated in the United Arab Emirates, south of Al Wagam and Al Q'aa (about 180 km south of Al Ain). It is almost exactly at the intersection of 23N and 55E, which makes it easy to find. There are two large sand runways forming a « T » that is easily visible on Google Earth. Otherwise there are just dumps of old tyres and cars, including a Landrover. Some are obviously truck size sand tyres; others look more like aviation types (rounded profile, almost treadless). No buildings, but human debris (ACs, cooking things, the odd gin bottle etc). What is the name of this airfield, and when was it in use? I presume it was oil-related, but there are no wells nearby. Maybe a clue is that toward the east of the field, we found a tall metal post in the sand, about 3m high with numbers and letters: on one side: AL91-306-VP1291+7 and on the other side: AL91-581-VP1619+6.

There are many old airfields around the UAE and Oman. One I visited fairly recently is Sumaini, Oman, at 24 39 10N, 55 53 40E. It is also visible on Google Earth, where you can even make out the white runway markers and the name “SUMAINI” in white. The striking thing is that it is absolutely clean, with no debris of any sort, not even marks from spilled oil or any sign of having been used. I have heard from a former Oman Air Force pilot that he landed a Beaver there in 1975.

Back in the UAE, there are still traces of the old Al Ain Airport, at 24 11 30 N, 55 49E, including the runway threshold marker in the form of a white arrow (just visible on Google Earth), and a helipad and a few ruined buildings.

http://l.garey.googlepages.com/home

brakedwell 20th Aug 2007 15:44

I spent two years flying Twin Pioneers and Pembrokes around Oman and the Trucial States in 1959/61. Oil survey groups from the Iraq Petroleum Company used to mark out strips using graders and use them for a month or so before moving on. The strips sometimes had names, sometimes numbers. Supplies were flown in from Beirut by Avro Yorks. Information on the state of the strips was not kept up to date. Some were near the mobile camps, others were some distance away and unmanned. I have enjoyed the odd pint of ice cold Red Barrel when we dropped in unannounced for a spot of lunch!

Jed A1 5th Sep 2007 20:48

The metal post you refer to, 3m high, with numbers on, would be the marker post for an abandoned oil well. I guess that it was a dry exploration well if there were no further signs of development.

I've been involved in building many such strips and landing sites around the Middle East and it is surprising how well they stay preserved. We've even reactivated 20 / 30 year old strips very easily.

For a typical exploration drilling operation the strips may get used for 3 months or so. If the wells produce then the strip would be used for the life of the well.

Typical uses would be to fly in personnel and urgent supplies. It's far easier and safer to hire an aircraft for 3 months to fly your personnel in, than spend 12 hours at a time on dodgy bus on dodgy roads.

Mearns Loon 5th Sep 2007 21:22

Metal Posts
 
Metal Posts are driven into or concreted into the ground at the intersection of two seismic lines.
To decode the inscription;
Year is 1991 followed by Line Number, then Vibrator Point
AP stands for the oil company possily AbuDhabi Petroleum.
I had an airstrip constructed in Southern Oman/Dhofar in 1971 when I was running field seismic operations there. I became fed up with the eight hour round trip to the nearest air strip to collect the weekly supplies.

l.garey 6th Sep 2007 12:26

Old oil strip
 
Thank you Jed and Mearns for this explanation.

Jed A1 6th Sep 2007 18:12

or of course the metal posts could indicate a siesmic operation :ugh:

l.garey 7th Sep 2007 08:41

Old oil airfield
 
I have just been sent some photos of the posts that I described at "our" old airfield. I made a mistake in that the first letters are AL not AP. I have edited my original posting to correct that. So any ideas what AL is? Mearns said AP could be the oil company. Is that still the theory?

Mearns Loon 7th Sep 2007 19:49

Initials could also be name of the Oil exploration block. Sorry ;Can't help with 'AL'

India Four Two 8th Sep 2007 16:29


Maybe a clue is that toward the east of the field, we found a tall metal post in the sand, about 3m high with numbers and letters: on one side: AL91-306-VP1291+7 and on the other side: AL91-581-VP1619+6.
Amazing what you find on PPRuNe. My day job is in oil exploration, currently offshore exploration, but I've had plenty of experience with onshore exploration and I know exactly what this metal post is.

I agree with ML's conclusion in Post #4.

It is a "permanent marker" placed by a surveyor to mark the intersection of two seismic lines. In this case AL is either the name of the oil company or of the exploration concession. 91 is the year of the survey and 306 and 581 are the numbers of the two intersecting seismic lines. VP1291 and VP1619 are the numbers of the closest "Vibration Points" on each line and the +6 and +7 refer to the offset distance in metres of each VP from the marker.

It is called a VP instead of a shotpoint (SP), because the seismic crew were using vibrators as an energy source instead of dynamite.

Before my use of the V word get this thread delegated to Jet Blast, I should point out that I am referring to 20 tonne vibrators like these:

http://www0.cgg.com/proserv/EyeD/eyedmaking216.html

Looking at the image on Google Earth, you can see many straight lines, some parallel to each other and some at angles. These are seismic lines and I expect that Lawrence's metal post would be at the intersection of two of the visible lines.

l.garey 9th Sep 2007 06:42

oil post
 
Thanks I42 for this extra information. And, yes, I see the straight white lines in Google Earth. Amazing!
Maybe the photo below will help. I am in the white hat to the right of the post!
The post was at 23 00.701N, 55 01.261E (GPS).
Do you know of any way I can find out more about this particular airfield (see my first post to this thread)?

Photo courtesy of Bob Reimer
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...post-small.jpg

StbdD 9th Sep 2007 12:20

Well this lad sold me some beans.....

l.garey 9th Sep 2007 13:22

oil
 
Maybe we are getting away from aviation history, but I suppose oil exploration by air is still part of aviation.
Maybe I42 can tell me how these 20 tonne vibrators (the mind boggles) got into the desert? Surely not in a Twin Pioneer!
I can understand that it was nicer to be able to fly into a prospecting site rather than go by car, but why was "our" airfield so big (2 runways, 1800 and 1600 m), and so far from a decent road (20 km as the houbara flies), across dunes and gravel plains tough enough to break 2 out of 4 of our 4x4s!
If the seismic study was done in 1991, what aircraft would have been used then?

India Four Two 9th Sep 2007 14:01

The vibrators would have been brought in by low-loader to the end of the nearest paved road and then driven across country. They are actually very rugged all-terrain vehicles and stand up much better to desert conditions than a 4x4.

By the 90's, air supply of food, etc. and crew changes would be by Twin Otter or similar. Clearly these two runways are much bigger than required by a Twin Otter, so I suspect they might have been built to take larger aircraft (C-130s?) to bring in components of an oil drilling rig. However, I cannot see any evidence of a rig site in the immediate area, although the white area (with multiple vehicle tracks) near the bottom left of the T looks a possibility.

What's a doctor doing standing in the middle of the UAE desert, wearing a glider pilot's hat?

l.garey 9th Sep 2007 14:14

my hat!
 
Oh, very observant. This doctor is (was) also a glider pilot, and is now a microlight (Apollo Fox) pilot. The hat is good for both.
I was at that time (2000-2004) a professor at the medical faculty of the UAE University in Al Ain, and an ardent supporter of the Emirates Natural History Group in Al Ain, where my specialities were finding bronze age bones (!), and old airfields.
I am trying to write a history of aviation in the Gulf region.

Any idea of whose Twin Otters or even C130s were used?
I confirm we found no sign of a rig in the area, just abandoned trucks, a fuel bowser, gin bottles, ACs, and camels (dead and alive), etc etc.

PS: have a look at
http://l.garey.googlepages.com/home
if you really want to know.

twochai 21st Aug 2008 15:29


Any idea of whose Twin Otters or even C130s were used?
Emirates Air Service (Abu Dhabi owned and based, no connection with Emirates Airline in Dubai) used to operate Twin Otters and Dash 7 combis supporting the oil industry, including ADNOC and ADMA. They may also have operated C-130's, or more probably L-100's, during the 90's.

l.garey 21st Aug 2008 16:03

Thanks very much. I shall try to follow it up.

Laurence

Trenchard Brat 20th Jul 2012 17:20

i spent 6 yrs living in both Al Ain and Thumrait and saw some weird and wonderfuls operating out of the desert, we had an Antonov 12 that used to move oil drilling kit into the empty quarter, Cooper Air Services from Wickenby used to have an Aerocommander bombing around the place, the old Al Ain airfield is still in use by the Royal Family and a certain branch of the armed Forces trained at Al Ain Army base, when you fly up from Salalah to Muscat, the number of fields visible is mind boggling

reynoldsno1 21st Jul 2012 02:41

I have spent more than one gritty evening lighting airstrips in central Oman for various flying machines of the rather unsophisticated variety . Coke cans half filled with kerosene, 4X2 (gun barrel cleaner) wick and you have serviceable runway lighting. The trick was to for the ground party to depart before the lights went out ...

Biggest problem could be camels that found that piece of graded desert more comfortable to sit on ... they will only really move after emptying half a mag of M16 rounds behind their left ear, then run like hell.

l.garey 23rd Jul 2012 05:31

Trenchard:
I wonder to which "old" Al Ain airfield you refer? The one at Da'udi is certainly not in use, having been converted to housing a few year ago.

Laurence


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