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JEM60 5th Apr 2010 06:34

Give it a bit of time, and the Yanks will claim it was a B.36!!:)

Fareastdriver 5th Apr 2010 08:05


Under or over i.e. between the towers, the span is 200 feet.
The Lancaster has a span of 102 feet.
Fly so the cockpit goes directly below the big badge and above the join on the bridge and you will have about 49 feet clear either side. There will be s slight error with regard to you're seating in the cockpit. Apart from that, simple.
If you can land it on a runway you can keep it within the towers of London Bridge.

TRC 6th Apr 2010 11:59

Legal flight through Tower Bridge
 
Well, there are two (three if you include the Thunderbirds thread) places to post this, but this one is probably the most relevent.

After six months of negotiations with the CAA (they kept saying 'no', we kept asking 'why not'), An AS355 was allowed to fly through Tower Bridge during the making of the film version of Thunderbirds. It was Sunday morning in summer 2003 at sparrow fart.

And to prove it...........

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...eBirds_124.jpg

Double Zero 6th Apr 2010 18:08

I'm nothing to do with Tangmere Museum, but if you should visit it ( allow plenty of time, there's a LOT to see ) as well as the 'simulator' giving one the chance to fly the Hunter through Tower bridge and with a little practice - it starts at a couple of thousand feet to the East - keep a heading of 273 degrees ( I didn't have the time or brains to work out if that's magnetic or true,but it's at the top of the screen, use the contour of the Thames as a guide.

Once used to it ( remember the Tangmere sim' is on a strict time limit, so you'll only get another go during quiet times ) it's possible to go through at full throttle - any Hunter pilots out there, if you try it would you agree the IAS is rather high ? - ignoring the overspeed alarm as it's only a game, then one has the choice of carrying straight on - a little higher ! For a South Easterly approach and landing at Northolt - tight on time - or looping straight after the bridge and then London City Airport is straight ahead.

From the latter it doesn't take Einstein to deduce it's based on Microsoft Flight Sim 2004.

The Tangmere add-on is available for £10.00 at the museum, it features Chipmunks, Lysanders, Hurricanes, Speed record reheated Hunter WB188 etc too but of course you need the F.S.2004 as well.

I'm not a particular sim' nut but I do find a force-feedback 'joystick' is well worthwhile, one can assign hand-on button & rotary controls for throttle, gear, flaps, outside view etc; it even trembles as one trundles across grass - well it does the trick for me but maybe that's too much information...

Inflamatory comments removed. You've made your opinions well known in other threads. No need to do it yet again. Anyone interested may do a search for them but the Mods have no desire to referee another urinating contest.

The Mods

X767 6th Apr 2010 21:28

Tower Bridge

OO

I knew you wouldn't be able to resist a further input !!

It would be nice if you could learn to spell Al's name properly.

X767

Flying Lawyer 6th Apr 2010 22:38

Double Zero

As for " loving to see & hat's off " etc, re. Flying a Hunter through Tower Bridge, it's probably a schoolboy taunt but I'll bite.
What on earth makes you think it was a schoolboy taunt? :confused:
Taunting whom?
That post was in January 2007 and you responded to it more than three years later in February 2010.


I received a lot of flak from 1960's pilots
I don’t know what you intend to imply by “1960’s pilots” but I can vouch for the fact that at least two of the many pilots who didn’t share your opinions were still at school in the 1960s, and didn't start flying until the 1970s. One of them became a respected fast jet test pilot, TP tutor and display pilot; I'd confidently put my life in his hands in any aircraft at any time. (The other is me.)


any sub-heroic replies will be up to you to determine their degree of madness !
Strong words for someone who isn’t a pilot, and never has been.


I do find a force-feedback 'joystick' is well worthwhile, one can assign hand-on button & rotary controls for throttle, gear, flaps, outside view etc; it even trembles as one trundles across grass
:rolleyes:
I don't doubt you’re a wizz on MS Flightsim. :zzz:

FL

Double Zero 6th Apr 2010 23:46

Trust a lawyer to find quotes from elsewhere...

Just for once, read what I actually wrote on this thread today and take it at face value !

We agree to differ as to the safe reasoning of flying through Tower Bridge...I have seen plenty of remarks like ' good flying ' but no-one has come back with a sensible argument for risking a lot of people.

I said I'm not a flight sim nut, and that's the truth; I've also flown with a lot of Test and Fast Jet Pilots, a small number of whom I certainly wouldn't choose to fly with again.

Cheap insults are beneath you, I would have hoped.

DZ OUT.

Flying Lawyer 7th Apr 2010 00:22

The quotes aren't from elsewhere; they are from your posts in this thread.


Just for once, read what I actually wrote on this thread today and take it at face value !
I would have if you hadn't treated readers of this forum yet again today, and for the nth time, to your opinion about Al Pollock's flight through Tower Bridge by gratuitously throwing in: "without stupidly risking civilians & architecture !"


I have seen plenty of remarks like ' good flying ' but no-one has come back with a sensible argument for risking a lot of people.
Perhaps that's because they don't accept your claim that he did risk a lot of people; I don't.

Cheap insults are beneath you, I would have hoped
Pots and kettles?
"Any sub-heroic replies will be up to you to determine their degree of madness!"

PPRuNe Pop 7th Apr 2010 06:24

Until my colleagues alerted me to how this thread had deteriorated I was already thinking that it was time to close the Tower Bridge for good. There are some great items here from those who have good records and have shared them, but there is of late some terrible crap and inflammatory remarks - and personal attacks.

What needs to be learned is that the wealth of experience on this thread and hundreds of others too, are ripe for the taking and learning from. Instead, we get personal digs, which, quite rightly get put down. I can well understand FL's extreme irritation - I feel the same way.

Anyway, to take my colleagues step one stage further I am closing this thread and there will be no more about it. It can be looked at whenever but enough is enough.

As for stepping in to try oneupmanship, forget it! Its been tried many times and the loser lost!!


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