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cringe 22nd Jul 2006 10:12

JDK, spot on with the Leo 451. :ok: Over to you.

http://www.histoiredumonde.net/IMG/jpg/intro-24.jpg

JDK 23rd Jul 2006 11:50

Why, thank you.

Had I the courage of my convictions, I'd have loaded up a piccie all ready. I didn't so I didn't. Apologies for the delay.

I got it due to Cringe's essay into French exotica before, from which it was but a short step to the Leo.

This should prove easy; so extra points for the details of this particular, historic, airframe.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...kpit230706.jpg

MReyn24050 23rd Jul 2006 14:34


Originally Posted by JDK
Why, thank you.
This should prove easy; so extra points for the details of this particular, historic, airframe.

It is a Douglas DC-2 which one is another story. Perhaps Ex Eastern Airlines one which was in service with the RAAF?

JDK 23rd Jul 2006 22:30

It is not a DC-2, but it's family has been covered here.

Sorry.

It's also a loooong way from 'Straya.

MReyn24050 23rd Jul 2006 23:54

How about a Lockheed 12A, perhaps Amelia Erharts aircraft?

DH106 24th Jul 2006 05:35

Not sure about the cockpit, but Earhart flew a Lockheed 10E not a 12A

airspeedsalive 24th Jul 2006 09:07

Kind of a stretch - DC5? - never seen the cockpit before. The deck angle doesn't look like a taildragger. "Shrug". If it is a taildragger though - how about a B18 Bolo?

MReyn24050 24th Jul 2006 09:30


Originally Posted by DH106
Not sure about the cockpit, but Earhart flew a Lockheed 10E not a 12A

Thanks DH106 I stand corrected as you say it was a Model 10E, NR16020 in fact.

Mel

MReyn24050 24th Jul 2006 09:43


Originally Posted by JDK
Why, thank you.

This should prove easy; so extra points for the details of this particular, historic, airframe.

Not that easy. I will stick with a Lockheed Model 12-A Electra Junior perhaps G-AKFR belonging to Sidney Cotton and used to photograph military establishments in Germany and Italy Feb and March 1940?

barit1 24th Jul 2006 12:20


Originally Posted by MReyn24050
Thanks DH106 I stand corrected as you say it was a Model 10E, NR16020 in fact.
Mel

Correct - but well after AE's disappearance, Paul Mantz (AE's technical consultant) had a 12A which he re-registered as N (or possibly NR) 16020. This ship crashed in California, and the conspiracy theorists had a field day tieing the two together. :ugh:

DH106 24th Jul 2006 12:30

barit1

Yup - and the same Paul Mantz was the pilot killed during the filming of the original "Flight of the Pheonix"

MReyn24050 24th Jul 2006 14:43


Originally Posted by JDK
Why, thank you.
This should prove easy; so extra points for the details of this particular, historic, airframe.

As I said not that easy .
Another wild guess Howard Hughes Aircraft the Lockheed 14 he flew around the world.

pigboat 24th Jul 2006 15:38

'Taint a 10A or a 12. I've flown both and there's too many windows, among other things.

Barit I remember the flap about that wreck. What the conspiracy freaks forgot to mention, was Mantz's aircraft had R985's and the 10E had 1340's. :O

barit1 24th Jul 2006 18:09


Originally Posted by pigboat
...Mantz's aircraft had R985's and the 10E had 1340's. :O

Good conspiracy theorists NEVER let trifling details get in their way. :yuk:

JDK 25th Jul 2006 00:39

No one's even near the actual machine, but MReyn24050 has been consistently 'Lockheed' and 'Model 12' despite many distractions!
It is Lockheed L-12A Electra Junior CF-CCT now in the Canadian Aviation Museum - Website here.
http://www.aviation.technomuses.ca/d...es/3503231.jpg

The Museum version was made in 1937 and operated by the Department of Transport until 1963, when it was presented to the Museum. The Museum aircraft was purchased by the Department of Transport in 1937 to survey the proposed route of the Trans-Canada Airway. In 1937 it performed the first same-day Montreal-to-Vancouver flight, with five stops along the way.
The first aircraft to make a dawn to dusk flight across the bulk of Canada.
Pigboat proves why I never trust unvarnished pilot accounts, and goes to the back of the class, :p and MReyn24050 has control!

Speedpig 25th Jul 2006 01:03


Originally Posted by JDK
It is Lockheed L-12A Electra Junior CF-CCT now in the Canadian Aviation Museum -

That was on the tip of my tongue:ugh:

pigboat 25th Jul 2006 03:36

Yeah, but I do have an excuse. The last time I flew either one was in 1967. :O

The 10 I flew is also in a museum, the WCAM in Winnipeg, albeit flyable. It's CF-TCC, ex-TCA, ex-Matane Air Services, ex-Northern Wings.

The 12 I flew was CF-FUS. Used to belong to Shell Oil before we bought it, and I'll be darned if I remember the cockpit looking like that. ;)

MReyn24050 25th Jul 2006 07:18

JDK
Many thanks, I did a search dwelling on famous aircraft I thought it might be but missed that one.
Here is one that I am sure will go in now time.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...pitquiz153.jpg
Mel

JDK 25th Jul 2006 07:47


Originally Posted by pigboat
Yeah, but I do have an excuse. The last time I flew either one was in 1967. :O
The 10 I flew is also in a museum, the WCAM in Winnipeg, albeit flyable. It's CF-TCC, ex-TCA, ex-Matane Air Services, ex-Northern Wings.
The 12 I flew was CF-FUS. Used to belong to Shell Oil before we bought it, and I'll be darned if I remember the cockpit looking like that. ;)

Only a gentle leg pull. ;)

Funnily enough I've flown in 'TCC, back in 2002, from Rockliffe, Ontario, home of the Canadian Aviation Museum. Did you finf the 10 and 12 good to fly? Certainly seem classy machines, and the British equivalent was the Avro Ten...

http://mmpbooks.biz/about/james.jpg

Mel, not only do I know what it is, I know where and when, as I have an almost identical pic I was saving up! I'll keep shtum and let someone else get it. :D

Philthy 25th Jul 2006 08:38

Ok, I'll bite: it can only be the unique Chrislea Super Ace.

I especially like the glasses tray!


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