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AerBabe 8th Feb 2005 14:40

RAF training aircraft
 
Can anyone point me in the direction of a list of the aircraft used for training by the RAF? Those that come to mind are:

Tiger Moth
DH Chipmunk
Harvard
Percival Provost
Grob Tutor
Bulldog
Folland Gnat
Jet Provost
Grob Viking

At the moment I don't mind what kind of training they were used for... but it would be really helpful if you could categorise them!

Many thanks. :ok:

Biggles Flies Undone 8th Feb 2005 15:02

Depends how far back you want to go, but you could take a look here CFS.

Somewhere in my loft I've got a book called (I think) 'CFS - Birthplace of Air Power' it's a good read and you're welcome to borrow it if it will help.

spekesoftly 8th Feb 2005 16:09

This link should cover most types used for RAF training.

pulse1 8th Feb 2005 16:18

I am reading Bomber Crew at the moment (based on the CH4 programme). Out of that I can add:

Miles Master & Magister
Airspeed Oxford
Avro Anson

surely not 8th Feb 2005 16:55

Boulton Paul Balliol
Avro 504
Hawker Tomtit
Avro Tutor

Lowtimer 8th Feb 2005 17:22

Blimey, I know it's made of plastic but how could you leave out the Firefly, or "MGF" as I seem to recall you dubbing it...
But yes, they should have had Yaks instead

Forget not also the Dominie (both versions, the Rapide and the HS125)

Legalapproach 8th Feb 2005 17:44

Try The History of Britain's Military Training Aircraft by Ray Sturtivant, published by Haynes

airborne_artist 8th Feb 2005 17:53

Jetstream - now superseded by leased King Airs, for ME pilot trg

Varsity, Pembroke

What about rotary? Hiller, Whirlwind, Gazelle etc.

henry crun 8th Feb 2005 19:17

Don't forget the Prentice, probably the worst basic trainer the RAF ever had.

AerBabe 8th Feb 2005 19:59

Hmm... that's a long old list!

Lowtimer - :O I don't know. That was one of the ones I had written down, but I missed it when I posted the question.

I also missed out the Tucano. And, not on my original list, I just thought... Meteor T7 and DH Vampire.

Yozzer 8th Feb 2005 21:23

Bell 47 Sioux 2FTS-CFS
Westland Whirlwind 2FTS-CFS
Bristol Sycamore CFS
Westland Wessex HU5 & HCII 2FTS
Westland Gazelle 2FTS - CFS
Eurocopter Squirral DHFS
Bell 412 EP Griffin HT1 DHFS & SARTU

Hiller was used by Royal Navy

The inventory of CFS(H) during the first half of 1961 was fourteen aircraft, two Dragonflys, two Whirlwinds (Mk2 and 4), eight Sycamores and two Skeeters (T11 and T12). In November 1961, CFS(H) took delivery of the first turbine engined helicopter, the Whirlwind Mk10.


Has everbody forgotten the Hawk T1

...& to be technically correct:

Cadet TX3 & T21 Sedburgh glider, but now Ive started something!

Skylark4 8th Feb 2005 22:59

AerBabe,
Just about everything the RAF has ever had has operated in a training role at some point in its life. In fact, when you come to think about it, if we are not at war, most flights are training anyway.

Mike W

Thor was one exception.

AerBabe 9th Feb 2005 07:20

Skylark4 - Yes, you learn something from every flight... hence all aircraft are trainers. Very true.

The reason for asking this is that I'm trying to put together some aircraft for one of my senior Air Cadets to photograph for the Essex Wing photographic competition. I think I'll stick to primary trainers...

If you have an aircraft that was used for primary training in the RAF, and you're available on May 8th, could you let me know? :ok:

treadigraph 9th Feb 2005 07:29

Only thing I can add to the list off hand is the Avro Athena, or did that lose out to the Balliol?

AerBabe, why not PM Hairyplane, see if his Magister might be keen to participate?

Genghis the Engineer 9th Feb 2005 07:38

Various aircraft called Dominie
Vigilant T1 (Grob G109b)
Janus C
Venture


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henry crun 9th Feb 2005 07:49

treadigraph: It did.

BEagle 9th Feb 2005 07:49

Hunter T7
Hunter 'GT6'
Mosquito T3
Lightning T5
Harrier T2 and T4
Jaguar T2

Sedbergh 9th Feb 2005 08:22

AB

If it's any help, I have access to/use of a T21B in Air Cadets markings

It was used by 614 VGS at Hornchurch/North Weald/Debden in the 1960's.

You'd have get your cadet to Oxfordshire though

AerBabe 9th Feb 2005 08:52

Thanks Sedbergh (I see now where the name comes from!), that would be great, but actually I'm trying to get as many aircraft as possible in the same place at the same time. Then bring all the cadets from the Squadron across to look. The senior NCO will, of course, be taking photos for the competition! Our Squadron has a Meteor T7 in the car park ... it's a shame we can't bring that along too.

hairyclameater 9th Feb 2005 09:05

Hunter GT6 - very spurious!!, surely a stripped down single seat F6 with no sabrinas dosnt qualify as a trainer!!??

How about Typhoon T1 (T1 - come on really , how can a trainer come before the fighter variant!!??) or Tornado F2/3(T) or Tornado GR1(T), Harrier T10, Jaguar T4, Lightning T4.. depends how you define "trainer"

I think the Athena T2 did enter service but more of a glider tug than trainer.


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