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Sunderland airshow cancelled due to climate change.

Sunderland Airshow axed over climate change - BBC News

If this is the shape of things to come I'm glad I attended as many shows as I was able when younger.
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Typical Labour council. I hope they enjoy a cold winter huddled around their candles.
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Typical Labour council. I hope they enjoy a cold winter huddled around their candles.
So Labour are to blame for climate change? That is really desperate.
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So Labour are to blame for climate change? That is really desperate.
Without the true believers the modern version of ‘climate change’ would not exist..

Old fashioned climate change would still exist:
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A new study details how a much warmer climate than today led to the disappearance of glaciers and ice caps during the sub-300 ppm CO2 Early to Middle Holocene. The Arctic’s modern ice extent is among the largest of the last 10,000 years.





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Funnily enough saw a doco a few days ago by climatologist explaining how climate change was responsible for the collapse of the Egyptian Pharaoh civilisation and creation of the Sahara desert.
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Funnily enough saw a doco a few days ago by climatologist explaining how climate change was responsible for the collapse of the Egyptian Pharaoh civilisation and creation of the Sahara desert.
Sounds about right.

About 2300 years ago these comments were written:

“…If it is true what the Cretans among others say, that nowadays the winters are more severe and more snow falls, adducing as evidence that the mountains were settled in olden times and supported both cereal and tree crop as the land was planted and tilled (for there are extensive plains among the mountains of Ida and in the other mountains, none of which are worked now because they do not bear, whereas in those days, as we have said, they were settled, as a result of which the island was populous, because then the rains were generous, while snowfalls and wintery weather did not often occur), if then this is true, as we say, the Etesian winds must be more numerous today…”


Rewriting the History of Climate Change in Ancient Greece ? PPEH Lab
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Looking down the BBC page link above under 'More on this Story', it was cancelled in 2019 for 'bad weather', in 2020 for 'Corona virus' and in 2021 for 'Corona Virus' again. The only thing that has changed is the excuse given. Useful phrase, this 'climate change'.
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Typical Labour council. I hope they enjoy a cold winter huddled around their candles.
The Tories have been in control for 12 years and this year people are facing power cuts, loss of pensions, increased fuel bills, and inflation...


'....but Corbyn!'
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Is there a connection between climate change deniers and anti vaxxers?

Leaving aside the reason / excuse given for the cancellation I suspect a combination of H&S and cost has more to do with it.
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Definately an excuse. The Sunderland Airshow had been in decline for a number of years before the universal covid/climate change excuse. During the 2019 airshow, a BAC Strikemaster burst at tyre on landing at Newcastle airport which caused a number of diversions on a peak weekend at the end of July.

Having said that, I have some very fond memories of the Sunderland Airshow which formed part of my childhood. Some of my recollections from past shows include:

B52 Flypast
F117A Flypast
Concorde Flypast
Sea Harrier and GR7 Duo
SU27 Anatoli Kovatur
SU26 Sventlana and Nikolia Timofeev
Jaguar
Tornado F3
Tornado GR1/4 then Role demo
Hawk
Tucano
Nimrod
BBMF
Red Arrows
RAF Falcons + Hercules Flypast
Red Devils
Black Cats Lynx
Blue Eagles 4 Gazelles 1x Lynx
Typhoon
Sea King SAR Demo
Chinook
Merlin
Belgian F16
Dutch F16
Danish F16
Patroulle Chysteline Fouga Magister trio
Dutch F27 shutting down an engine
Dutch PC-7
Belgian Fouga Magister
Catalina
B-17
Gill Air ATR
Eastern J41
DHL 757
Blenheim/Lysander Duo
Meteor/Vampire Duo
Vulcan- Boring
Royal Jordanian Falcons
Miss Demeanour Hunter F58
Fairey Swordfish
Fairey Firefly
Hawker Sea Fury
Hawker Sea Hawk
Will Curtis SU26
Nanchang CJ6
Christen Eagle
Newcastle Aero Club
Utterly Butterly Wing Walkers
Saab Drakken
Strikemaster Pair
Jet Provost Pair
Glider team (Guy Westgate)
Matadores 2x SU26
Mig 15
F-86 Sabre
Norwegian Vampire pair
Swiss PC-7 Team
Swedish Saab 105
P-40 Peter Teichman
Air Ambulance twin squirrel operating from arena

All in all, some impressive line ups over the years. Anyone got any more to add to the list?
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Originally Posted by jolihokistix View Post
Looking down the BBC page link above under 'More on this Story', it was cancelled in 2019 for 'bad weather', in 2020 for 'Corona virus' and in 2021 for 'Corona Virus' again. The only thing that has changed is the excuse given. Useful phrase, this 'climate change'.
Indeed, becoming increasingly popular to hide a multitude of sins.

A touch ironic however, given Sunderland's location, proximity to the N.Sea ... thence to the Urals where anything above +16C constitutes tropical
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My gut feeling is by the end of this decade, what remaining airshows there still are in the UK today, will have all largely disappeared as a result of pressures from the eco-warriors.



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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
Is there a connection between climate change deniers and anti vaxxers?
I suspect a Venn diagram showing the two groups would have a pretty large intersection ...
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Leaving aside the politics one has to question the presentation of this.

It cannot seriously be due to climate change since one airshow will have no impact whatsoever, so if they want to cancel it, and I can understand they probably cannot afford it, then they should make it clear they are canceling as a gesture about aviation and the environment which is not wholly unreasonable.

If say United airlines said they were cutting 25% of their flights for five years then that might make a noticeable but small difference.

Casting aspersions about center-left parties is a bit daft at present when the current ruling party has visibly run the country into the ground economically, socially and reputationally because they sold their soul to the devil with blond hair.
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Old 19th Oct 2022, 13:56
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Originally Posted by The Flying Stool View Post
Definately an excuse. The Sunderland Airshow had been in decline for a number of years before the universal covid/climate change excuse. During the 2019 airshow, a BAC Strikemaster burst at tyre on landing at Newcastle airport which caused a number of diversions on a peak weekend at the end of July.

Having said that, I have some very fond memories of the Sunderland Airshow which formed part of my childhood. Some of my recollections from past shows include:

B52 Flypast
F117A Flypast
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Vulcan- Boring
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P-40 Peter Teichman
Air Ambulance twin squirrel operating from arena

All in all, some impressive line ups over the years. Anyone got any more to add to the list?
Was that a mis-print, or did you genuinely find the Vulcan boring?
It was my absolute favourite air display aircraft of all time to watch (and listen to) 🙂
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The Triathlon World Championships eh?

Between January and October 2019 staff of the ITU took 1,471 flights covering 4,181,200 km and producing approximately 790 tonnes of CO2.

The Triathlon World Series events have roughly 120 athletes competing from all over the world, all of which will need to travel to Sunderland along with coaching and technical staff, family, friends and other associated hangers on.

I would suggest that the "environmental impact" of a small airshow mostly attended by locals will produce orders of magnitude less CO2 than an international sporting event.
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The excuse is that they want it to be carbon neutral. That rules out just about any aeroplane likely to be worth watching and with a few exceptions under trial all the rest of them too
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Originally Posted by The Flying Stool View Post
Definately an excuse. The Sunderland Airshow had been in decline for a number of years before the universal covid/climate change excuse. During the 2019 airshow, a BAC Strikemaster burst at tyre on landing at Newcastle airport which caused a number of diversions on a peak weekend at the end of July.

Having said that, I have some very fond memories of the Sunderland Airshow which formed part of my childhood. Some of my recollections from past shows include:

Black Cats Lynx

All in all, some impressive line ups over the years. Anyone got any more to add to the list?
The Black Cats Lynx would have gone down very well in Sunderland
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If say United airlines said they were cutting 25% of their flights for five years then that might make a noticeable but small difference.
Sunderland Council asked United to do exactly that.

United told them to f*ck *ff.
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Definately an excuse. The Sunderland Airshow had been in decline for a number of years before the universal covid/climate change excuse. During the 2019 airshow, a BAC Strikemaster burst at tyre on landing at Newcastle airport which caused a number of diversions on a peak weekend at the end of July


In terms of aviation interest maybe (like most airshows) but attendances were fine. Not sure of the relevance of the Strikemaster to the cancellation?

The Triathlon World Championships eh?

Between January and October 2019 staff of the ITU took 1,471 flights covering 4,181,200 km and producing approximately 790 tonnes of CO2.

The Triathlon World Series events have roughly 120 athletes competing from all over the world, all of which will need to travel to Sunderland along with coaching and technical staff, family, friends and other associated hangers on.

I would suggest that the "environmental impact" of a small airshow mostly attended by locals will produce orders of magnitude less CO2 than an international sporting event.
It's the spectators attending the event which have the carbon impact. Isn't the Tour de France the sporting event with the largest carbon footprint?
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