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Fate is the Hunter

Old 23rd Oct 2021, 11:22
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And I'll now re-read it, since it's been a few years. It really shows the technology leap that's been made that you can read it on the EFB at 41,000ft on the way back from a Greek night flight, which the only interruptions are from the CPDLC dinging away once in a while.......
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Old 25th Oct 2021, 08:08
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Paperback copy available from Amazon for £5.00 with free P&P, I started a re read last night.
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Old 25th Oct 2021, 08:39
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Gave my copy to my Grandson when he first started to learn to fly. He is now a SFO with easyjet and who knows one day the wisdom in this book may just be of help even if their respective a/c are light years apart.
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Old 25th Oct 2021, 09:22
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I don't see easyJet trainers being too happy to light matches under your grandson's nose as he flies his very occassional manual ILS!!!!!!!
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Old 25th Oct 2021, 09:56
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Originally Posted by McDuff View Post
I found it very difficult to read. I loved the historical value of the stories, but bridled at the poor captaincy, the expectstion that your co-pilot is expected almost to be a mind-reader, to understand the captain's intentions without words. Its value as a pilot’s story was low for me. It felt dangerous as a message about running a flight deck
But that's how it used to be, that's the point. Even much later, when I started flying, there were bad Captains who thought they were gods and we should anticipate their every move without being asked or told.

We are lucky that many of those earlier lessons have been learned and we now have pretty decent SOPs, and CRM.
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Old 7th Nov 2021, 01:14
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Gann, especially F.I.T.H. is essential reading for every young pilot. In fact I don't trust a newbie that hasn't read it, or is not interested in reading it. It shows up a lack of pedigree.
Just like I make flight students read Handling The Big Jets. And that's for a PPL
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Old 7th Nov 2021, 12:01
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Originally Posted by Meikleour View Post
I don't see easyJet trainers being too happy to light matches under your grandson's nose as he flies his very occassional manual ILS!!!!!!!
Dear me! That won't go down well, he might inhale a whiff of - er - I'm going to utter an obscenity here - airmanship... sorree!
And in easyjet that would never do!
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Old 7th Nov 2021, 12:41
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Pugilistic Animus,

I totally agree about 'Handling the Big Jets'. I had the pleasure of flying with D P Davies on several C of A air tests, it was very educational to ask him for his views and advice - always delivered in his usual trenchent style! I stiil have his book on my bookshelf, together with 'Fate is the Hunter' and many others. Both contain many pearls of wisdom.
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Old 8th Nov 2021, 19:49
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Bergerie1 ... those books and many more, such as Stick and Rudder have shaped the way I fly now and in the past too.


Flying with D.P. Davies must have been an amazing experience and literally a once in a lifetime one.
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Old 17th May 2022, 02:59
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I just heard a story about one of the crew members of O'connors crash landing in Canada...
Some time in the late 40's or early 50's this man lived in Newport RI, he was "old" at the time,
Apparently he had trained a parrot that lived with him to do a pre take off check, and rolling take off check list,
including squawking "Airspeed 110" "Flaps" ... and so on...
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Old 17th May 2022, 06:31
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Where is today's post from FITHfan?
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Old 17th May 2022, 08:11
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Originally Posted by dixi188 View Post
Where is today's post from FITHfan?
I know - I noticed this earlier this morning, there's something wierd that goes on when some users post, they don't seem visible in the thread immediately for some reason.
That post from FITHfan is visible now though. Is it when new users post - I notice that FITHfan's post count is #1?
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Old 17th May 2022, 09:03
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Yes I think new/recent forum members first couple of posts probably go into a moderation queue,I have seen quite often where a new post shows on the home page but not on the actual thread for up to a couple of days.
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Old 20th May 2022, 07:30
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Originally Posted by Pugilistic Animus View Post
My favorite chapter is the first chapter when describing Lester...on the whole I love, love, love FITH!
In the medical business, FITH mean something else, a common syndrome "f.....d in the head", or if you like, funny in the head.
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Old 20th May 2022, 10:25
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Two more inspirational aviation books:

Charles Lindbergh - 'Spirit of St Louis' (description of his 1927 solo NY to Paris Le Bourget flight - launched me on a career in aviation)

Sir Gordon Taylor - 'The Sky Beyond' (pioneering trans-ocean flights in Catalinas)
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Old 21st May 2022, 15:08
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I read FITH and "Flying Circus" as a kid in high school about 40-odd years ago .... time I read them again!
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Old 21st May 2022, 19:41
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Originally Posted by Discorde View Post
Charles Lindbergh - 'Spirit of St Louis' (description of his 1927 solo NY to Paris Le Bourget flight
Met him in the late sixties in the Ambassador Hotel on Waikiki Beach whilst we were waiting for a cab to Hickam. (Yes, the Cold War was hell !) He was also waiting for a cab to the airport and the receptionist took a copy of this very book to him to get it autographed which alerted us (Victor Tanker crew) to who he was.
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Old 24th May 2022, 14:02
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Another fan from 50 yrs ago . Guided my early airline days , was as current then as the '40s. A USair 'gurlfriend pilot in mid '80s was also a fan and had met Ernie .
A Co has the professional duty to mind read his Capt , say Yes , Go faster , be the skippers apologiser , social organiser , last chance saloon decider , and generally keeping the team out of trouble ..
Whilst the skipper is mulling it over , go slower , No , G/A , divert , and unless it's Engineers year ....chatting up the No 1 hostie / host.
Gifted a new copy to our son when he started aviating . His 6 + yrs in easyJet gave him many manual approaches , Vis , VOR , GPS and numerous ILSs when a/c, weather, fatigue, even at LGW allowed . His skippers being happy to facilitate .
He's now moved on to ANZ where we hope FITH helped again .

rgds condor .

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