Anyone able to add anything to this picture?
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Daylight shaving time?
I tried all 4 rotations of the image and 90 deg clockwise from the published image makes most sense to me. Mid to late afternoon spring or autumn is as far as I got but, at that time of day 45 deg pitch and roll seems more than enough for that shadow.
It's along time since I lived in UK and I've become used to sun angles in Arizona so I could be way off. I'm sure some of the current or retired photo analysts would come up with a much better answer.
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The shadow cast by the tower on the Gillette Building appears to actually be a gap between saw-toothed roofing in a kind of quadrangle behind the front block of the building, the whole area is in shadow. Agree it's a very low sun angle, looks like very long tree and house shadows around the tailplane and under the wing. Google...
The tree shadows - if that's what they are! - look like they may be bare of leaves, late autumn, winter or maybe spring then!
The tree shadows - if that's what they are! - look like they may be bare of leaves, late autumn, winter or maybe spring then!
At the risk of stating the obvious, all we seem to be debating is which way up the photographer happened to be holding the camera.
None of the four possible orientations of the photo make any difference to the orientation or trajectory of the aircraft, given that we can see both the ground and, by deduction, the direction of the sun.
Try it next time you're at the airport - take a picture of a departing airliner with your camera upside-down, and see if the passengers notice any difference.
Next, how many angels can dance on the head of a pin ...
None of the four possible orientations of the photo make any difference to the orientation or trajectory of the aircraft, given that we can see both the ground and, by deduction, the direction of the sun.
Try it next time you're at the airport - take a picture of a departing airliner with your camera upside-down, and see if the passengers notice any difference.
Next, how many angels can dance on the head of a pin ...
Had I taken the photo with the camera upside down, and there are good reasons to sometimes do that with an SLR, I would simply have rotated the image when I got home. The passengers would also have been unaware of this second inversion.
Might make it easier to spot discrepancies if it is indeed a fake.
Last edited by B2N2; 21st Aug 2021 at 05:24.
I really do not think it is a fake B2N2
I think your orientation in post #24 is probably the correct one - looking at the shadow angles.
They are lovely pictures and the low sun must have been uncomfortable for the Hurri Pilot formating on the camera aircraft.
In times gone by - the photographer would always have been credited with the shot - nowadays of course all we find out is the copyright holder
I think your orientation in post #24 is probably the correct one - looking at the shadow angles.
They are lovely pictures and the low sun must have been uncomfortable for the Hurri Pilot formating on the camera aircraft.
In times gone by - the photographer would always have been credited with the shot - nowadays of course all we find out is the copyright holder
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Compare to today
Here's the same area today, courtesy Google Earth. As someone mentioned, you can see that the line in the roof of the factory is architecural. The top of the picture is North so the sun in the Hurri photo is shining from the South-East, and therefore it's a morning shot in winter rather than an afternoon shot. (That is, if I remember my O Level geography correctly!!!)
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Whoops
Just realised: the Google pic I posted does not have North at the top: it is Nor'west. That means that the sun in the Hurri photo is around due South, so probably midday in the middle of winter.
If it's any help, the dual carriageway heading out of the bottom of your photo (the A4/Great West Road) has a heading of 265° true at that point, as GE will confirm - in other words, within a gnat's of due West (the clue's in the name).
Your photo needs rotating by approximately 60° CW to put N at the top.
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was on all camouflaged surfaces from 1937 to 1939 ... March 1939 IIRC... ok I looked it up on Wikipedia, but I'm surprised nobody mentioned the markings
