Changes at Old Warden
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An email from Shuttleworth today states that the Runway Cafe will open to the general public with a new parking area outside
An extract from an email received today from OW
Our admission entrance will be moving into the visitor centre, with all visitors now entering and exiting the attraction via the shop.
·Admission pricing is being updated with adults paying £15.50 and a concessionary rate of £14.00, children under 16 remain free and members continue to have access to all admission areas.
·Areas within the new admission structure include the Collection Hangars, Swiss Garden, Woodland Walk and Engineering Hangar.
·A newly adapted dog walking route within the admission zone has been created, walking the outskirts of the garden and around the woodland before returning to the shop, just a reminder dogs are not permitted within the Runway Café. Please enter through the dog friendly discovery hub with your furry friends.
RunwayCafé
·The Runway Café will open to the general public on a daily basis, serving a range of locally sourced freshly prepared meals.
·Breakfast served until 11:30am and lunch between 12:00pm and 15:00pm.
·A new parking area will open outside the Runway Café with additional blue badge parking introduced
Our admission entrance will be moving into the visitor centre, with all visitors now entering and exiting the attraction via the shop.
·Admission pricing is being updated with adults paying £15.50 and a concessionary rate of £14.00, children under 16 remain free and members continue to have access to all admission areas.
·Areas within the new admission structure include the Collection Hangars, Swiss Garden, Woodland Walk and Engineering Hangar.
·A newly adapted dog walking route within the admission zone has been created, walking the outskirts of the garden and around the woodland before returning to the shop, just a reminder dogs are not permitted within the Runway Café. Please enter through the dog friendly discovery hub with your furry friends.
RunwayCafé
·The Runway Café will open to the general public on a daily basis, serving a range of locally sourced freshly prepared meals.
·Breakfast served until 11:30am and lunch between 12:00pm and 15:00pm.
·A new parking area will open outside the Runway Café with additional blue badge parking introduced
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To add to discussions on the previous page, we did call into the cafe at St Just airport in September 2021.
We were served some decidedly average and outrageously priced coffees, in cardboard cups, by an extremely surly woman behind the counter.
I can't remember now about buns/cakes but we won't be returning.
We were served some decidedly average and outrageously priced coffees, in cardboard cups, by an extremely surly woman behind the counter.
I can't remember now about buns/cakes but we won't be returning.
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An extract from an email received today from OW
Our admission entrance will be moving into the visitor centre, with all visitors now entering and exiting the attraction via the shop.
·Admission pricing is being updated with adults paying £15.50 and a concessionary rate of £14.00, children under 16 remain free and members continue to have access to all admission areas.
·Areas within the new admission structure include the Collection Hangars, Swiss Garden, Woodland Walk and Engineering Hangar.
·A newly adapted dog walking route within the admission zone has been created, walking the outskirts of the garden and around the woodland before returning to the shop, just a reminder dogs are not permitted within the Runway Café. Please enter through the dog friendly discovery hub with your furry friends.
RunwayCafé
·The Runway Café will open to the general public on a daily basis, serving a range of locally sourced freshly prepared meals.
·Breakfast served until 11:30am and lunch between 12:00pm and 15:00pm.
·A new parking area will open outside the Runway Café with additional blue badge parking introduced
Our admission entrance will be moving into the visitor centre, with all visitors now entering and exiting the attraction via the shop.
·Admission pricing is being updated with adults paying £15.50 and a concessionary rate of £14.00, children under 16 remain free and members continue to have access to all admission areas.
·Areas within the new admission structure include the Collection Hangars, Swiss Garden, Woodland Walk and Engineering Hangar.
·A newly adapted dog walking route within the admission zone has been created, walking the outskirts of the garden and around the woodland before returning to the shop, just a reminder dogs are not permitted within the Runway Café. Please enter through the dog friendly discovery hub with your furry friends.
RunwayCafé
·The Runway Café will open to the general public on a daily basis, serving a range of locally sourced freshly prepared meals.
·Breakfast served until 11:30am and lunch between 12:00pm and 15:00pm.
·A new parking area will open outside the Runway Café with additional blue badge parking introduced
Must call in next time I’m passing!
The visitor experience manager at Old Warden has only been in the job since March. Before that he had a similar role at the RAF Museum. Doesn't bode well.......
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According to aw ditor it's the same fool who abolished Friends of Duxford and appears to have demanded a larger slice of the Legends takings.
He wasn't at Duxford very long either.
He wasn't at Duxford very long either.
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I was going by aw ditor's response to me in post #74 but I think that must have been just about abolishing Friends of Duxford.
By the time the Legends question came up, he was causing carnage at Old Warden so it must have been somebody else.
By the time the Legends question came up, he was causing carnage at Old Warden so it must have been somebody else.
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To add to discussions on the previous page, we did call into the cafe at St Just airport in September 2021.
We were served some decidedly average and outrageously priced coffees, in cardboard cups, by an extremely surly woman behind the counter.
I can't remember now about buns/cakes but we won't be returning.
We were served some decidedly average and outrageously priced coffees, in cardboard cups, by an extremely surly woman behind the counter.
I can't remember now about buns/cakes but we won't be returning.
Dillows (run by one Mary Dillow) was the definitive Biggin cafe, situated on the 'South Camp' alongside the tin hangar and facing across the apron (with its geenhouse mini tower).
The meeting point for anything aviation happening at Biggin, and frequented by all. Biggin had become the home for civil aviation in 59 when Croydon closed, and apart from 'Surrey and Kent' (formerly Surrey flying club) was soon the base for over a dozen clubs/groups. 'Jock' started the 'Air Fairs' and Biggin was civil flying in the South East. Mary was a widow after her husband tried one loop to many in a Turbulent !!.
Treads do you still have an image of BTC at St Just in the 80's.
The meeting point for anything aviation happening at Biggin, and frequented by all. Biggin had become the home for civil aviation in 59 when Croydon closed, and apart from 'Surrey and Kent' (formerly Surrey flying club) was soon the base for over a dozen clubs/groups. 'Jock' started the 'Air Fairs' and Biggin was civil flying in the South East. Mary was a widow after her husband tried one loop to many in a Turbulent !!.
Treads do you still have an image of BTC at St Just in the 80's.
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As a local based occasional user of the Airport catering facility at Lands End (St Just) I have to say that this free to use facility is quite acceptable as a commercial airport coffee spot. Not only that but it offers a very close view (for the spotters) of the operations thrown in. Not quite the previous rural atmosphere of the 'homemade' 'Chocks Away Cafe', but it offers a service to all who have a choice whether to use it or not. On a slightly historical note the original Airport cafe operated by Scillonia Airways (Rapides) utilised the former fire engine building (complete with service pit) This was opened decades ago by one Elizabeth Taylor who happened to be filming nearby, the service pit becoming a fish pool. Another good spot is the nearby Geevor Tin Mine cafe that has fantastic views out to sea plus excellent food. Of course those of us of a certain age also remember the classic Dillows at Biggin Hill.
We'll go down the road to St Just itself, call into McFaddens (fifth generation farmers and butchers) for a few pasties then decamp into the Star Inn a few doors along.
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Dillows (run by one Mary Dillow) was the definitive Biggin cafe, situated on the 'South Camp' alongside the tin hangar and facing across the apron (with its geenhouse mini tower).
The meeting point for anything aviation happening at Biggin, and frequented by all. Biggin had become the home for civil aviation in 59 when Croydon closed, and apart from 'Surrey and Kent' (formerly Surrey flying club) was soon the base for over a dozen clubs/groups. 'Jock' started the 'Air Fairs' and Biggin was civil flying in the South East. Mary was a widow after her husband tried one loop to many in a Turbulent !!.
Treads do you still have an image of BTC at St Just in the 80's.
The meeting point for anything aviation happening at Biggin, and frequented by all. Biggin had become the home for civil aviation in 59 when Croydon closed, and apart from 'Surrey and Kent' (formerly Surrey flying club) was soon the base for over a dozen clubs/groups. 'Jock' started the 'Air Fairs' and Biggin was civil flying in the South East. Mary was a widow after her husband tried one loop to many in a Turbulent !!.
Treads do you still have an image of BTC at St Just in the 80's.
Air Britain host a pic of 'BTC at St Just https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1283402
Ah St Just and the Star - last time I was there was during the St Valentines Day storm in 2014 - eating a pasty in the lee of one of the pubs, not sure if it was Warrens or McFaddens, but I do recall the rain getting in through the windows of the Kings Arms... Much prefer the Star.

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Lightwater's a fair step from North-East Derbyshire...
It's possible but seems unlikely to be the same people. It's a family business, five generations as I said, with only the one shop. No idea where their farm is, apart from Cornwall, and they don't do mail-order, I checked.
A 700-odd mile round trip to pick up a couple of pasties from here seems a bit excessive too so we'll have to wait until September.
Re Warrens. I'm not sure but I think we prefer Rowes, or even better, Philps.
It's possible but seems unlikely to be the same people. It's a family business, five generations as I said, with only the one shop. No idea where their farm is, apart from Cornwall, and they don't do mail-order, I checked.
A 700-odd mile round trip to pick up a couple of pasties from here seems a bit excessive too so we'll have to wait until September.
Re Warrens. I'm not sure but I think we prefer Rowes, or even better, Philps.
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I'll be in Lightwater next week, I shall check the Co-op's pasties for authenticity...
Wouldn't do Warren's by choice, usually look for something less ubiquitous...
Wouldn't do Warren's by choice, usually look for something less ubiquitous...