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Aircraft with unusual landing gear configurations

Old 6th Feb 2021, 13:30
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Apologies for initiating the trident thread drift, a plane which to my mind was definitely not ugly, in fact rather elegant and stylish . I too always thought Blackburn aircraft were astonishingly ungainly , even the Roc and Skua which look vaguely normal had to have back to front sloping windshields, I seem to recall the legendary Eric Brown who must have come across their earlier products being slightly alarmed at his first sight of a Baracuda . They also seemed to have somehow survived despite most of their efforts not just being ugly but not actually any good Rocs/Skua, Bothas etc to name a few altho I suppose they redeemed themselves at the very end of their existence with the tough menacing looking and apparently highly effective Buccaneer. A really brilliant thread overall with some truly startling ideas perhaps the caterpillar tracked B36 main gear being the most extraordinary.
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Old 6th Feb 2021, 14:32
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Austers had a couple of other oddities
Pantos. ..like short ski , to land on water and slide up to stop on the beach. Could be fun if yr judgement of distances was out, loss of lift on the water landing and subside into the surf.
Not enough distance/ lift off the beach...subside into the surf. Can’t understand why this fun idea never caught on.

And a tank track like arrangement, but very light weight build, for landing on soft or rough ground .
Cant remember if it was this odd job that had the ability to offset for drift.

Austers hopefully are forever..the normal ones. 9.5 out of 10 for the aircraft. 0.5 / 10 for the crappy cable operated shoe brakes.
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Old 6th Feb 2021, 15:10
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For completely over-the-top complication, I offer the C-5–it rotates, it folds on retraction, reverses to extend, then, on the ground kneels forward, level and aft.

Oh, I forgot, in earlier times, it twisted all four paws to manage crosswinds, but even at USAF budgets it got too much to maintain or work correctly.
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Old 6th Feb 2021, 19:38
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So a few more WTF LG’s





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Old 6th Feb 2021, 20:13
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Goose!

The Grumman Goose flying boats have cool retractable wing pontoons so you can dip one ring down to clear the other wing over a dock

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Old 7th Feb 2021, 13:37
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My contribution, the F82



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Old 7th Feb 2021, 13:52
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Originally Posted by MLHeliwrench View Post
The Grumman Goose flying boats have cool retractable wing pontoons so you can dip one ring down to clear the other wing over a dock
That's an aftermarket mod, original Geese did not have that option. It makes for a useful docking method, I will admit that.



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Old 7th Feb 2021, 17:00
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Originally Posted by Jhieminga View Post
That's an aftermarket mod, original Geese did not have that option. It makes for a useful docking method, I will admit that.
The McKinnon conversions have retractable floats.
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Old 7th Feb 2021, 17:23
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Then again, there was always the option of no wheels at all. Winkle Brown’s book details the trials he carried out with a Vampire landing onto a flexible rubber mat , wheels up. All leading towards landing on a carrier to save the weight and complexity of an u/c capable of absorbing the stresses of carrier ops. I wonder why it never caught on!
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Old 7th Feb 2021, 17:36
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It does seem a bit daft that they went to all the expense of building the test infrastructure, and testing it, without a single person asking how they were supposed to move the aeroplane after it had landed.
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Old 7th Feb 2021, 17:41
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I know it's not exactly unusual configuration, but it's certainly unusual.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...xible_nose.png

It's not the picture I was looking for, or even necessarily the right aeroplane. I've seen a picture somewhere of somebody looking at a wheel about 8' diameter which is the only remaining part of whichever aircraft it was.
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Old 7th Feb 2021, 18:35
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The General Aircraft Monospar variant (ST.25u?) with a tricycle undercarriage was pretty ungainly


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Old 7th Feb 2021, 18:45
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
The McKinnon conversions have retractable floats.
Thanks, I'll go and read up on them
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Old 8th Feb 2021, 02:22
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Following flying boat links down the usual YouTube rabbit hole ... when they taxied from the tarmac to water - when did they raise the wheels? In one clip, showing part of the dials and indicators, there was a pull-type knob with the clearly stated lable that I'll just leave here: PULL FOR QUICK ERECT.
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Old 8th Feb 2021, 02:54
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TSR2. Unfair, I know, but it was still distinctly odd looking even when it did work properly!


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Old 8th Feb 2021, 03:24
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Originally Posted by DHfan View Post
I know it's not exactly unusual configuration, but it's certainly unusual.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...xible_nose.png

It's not the picture I was looking for, or even necessarily the right aeroplane. I've seen a picture somewhere of somebody looking at a wheel about 8' diameter which is the only remaining part of whichever aircraft it was.
Were you perhaps thinking of the picture in this thread of a wheel from the Beardmore Inflexible?
Beardmore Inflexible Wheel
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Old 8th Feb 2021, 03:25
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Originally Posted by JonnyT1978 View Post
The General Aircraft Monospar variant (ST.25u?) with a tricycle undercarriage was pretty ungainly

That's not an undercarriage, that's a Zimmer frame.
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Old 8th Feb 2021, 04:13
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I knew there was another image I had seen that matched your description, and it is this:


From the Mannesman Giant Triplane
The wheel is now at Duxford, and looks like this


I had a memory of seeing this in James Gilbert's The World's Worst Aircraft (1975, one of the earliest and best books with that title); that memory must have been from maybe 30 years ago, but climbing up a ladder to the top shelf my bookshelves, there it was.




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Old 8th Feb 2021, 06:33
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If you are going to experiment with fuselage arrangement, engine configuration and pioneer mono-wing, you might as well chuck in landing gear Bleriot 125....it didn’t fly that well
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Old 8th Feb 2021, 08:14
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You beat me to it FP! My reference was Haddow and Grosz's German Giants ( R Planes) Putnam where I must admit I had remembered it as the :Poll Giant Triplane.
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