Is it possible? A modern VC 10
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 486
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Haraka
The One Eleven was evolved from the 1956 originated Percival P 107 ,then Hunting H.107 and was enlarged when Hunting was absorbed into BAC via Airco , as initially the BAC.111, the "111" designation being purely arbitrary .
Before all that was Airco which consisted of de Havilland, Hunting and Fairey and the original Trident was an Airco project, albeit with a DH type number.
Originally Posted by dixi188
That is my understanding, although it should be , "BAC One-Eleven"..
Take your pick.
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: London
Posts: 206
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Jhieminga
The ICAO type designators muddle the issue a bit, that is a completely separate list that was used in flightplans. From an old version: the VC7 code was used for the Viscount 700 series and the VC8 code for the Viscount 800 series but in a later update, both of these were merged into the VISC code. In a similar way, there used to be a separate code for the Standard and Super VC10s (VC10 and VC15 I think) but these were also merged into one VC10 code. I found the VANG code in an old ICAO doc, but internal Vickers documents did refer to the Vanguard as the VC9 AFAIK. I have a list of the Vickers Commercial numbers on my site too, it mostly follows the one in Andrews & Morgan's book: https://www.vc10.net/History/vc10_origins.html
Originally Posted by Jhieminga
The ICAO type designators muddle the issue a bit, that is a completely separate list that was used in flightplans. From an old version: the VC7 code was used for the Viscount 700 series and the VC8 code for the Viscount 800 series but in a later update, both of these were merged into the VISC code. In a similar way, there used to be a separate code for the Standard and Super VC10s (VC10 and VC15 I think) but these were also merged into one VC10 code. I found the VANG code in an old ICAO doc, but internal Vickers documents did refer to the Vanguard as the VC9 AFAIK. I have a list of the Vickers Commercial numbers on my site too, it mostly follows the one in Andrews & Morgan's book: https://www.vc10.net/History/vc10_origins.html
Originally Posted by possel
That link would have saved me some typing! Your list does not mention the Putnam book, but I guess it's your source too?
Edit: 'Stuck on the Drawing Board' has some notes about some of Vickers' unfinished projects as well. The only major difference between the list on my site and the one in Andrews & Morgan's Putnam book is the VC9. I have seen a few references to the Vanguard that called it a VC9 (which may be based on its ICAO type designator, but I can't confirm that) and it fits in the timeline... That's my reasoning.
Last edited by Jhieminga; 21st Dec 2020 at 13:55.
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Sydney
Age: 70
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
VC10
Would love to have flown in one as a passenger and it would be great to see them still flying but I don't think the economics cut the mustard.
Still have a BOAC Junior Jet Club logbook which I was given whilst travelling as a boy on a BOAC Comet 4 (1964 and in First Class) in which there was a promotional leaflet on the upcoming introduction of the VC10.
Yes it would be great for people to experience what it was like to fly in those aircraft but getting parts etc. would be an economic nightmare.
Have to give it to the British aircraft industry credit for what they achieved in the 1950's and 1960's. One example being the introduction of Autoland capabilities in the Tridents.
I certainly dig log many miles as a passenger in the Viscounts as a boy.
Just feel grateful to have flown in Tridents, BAC1-11, Sunderland/Sandringham flying boats,BAE146 and Concorde.
Also the Caravelle10R although manufactured in France had a Dehavilland Comet cockpit.
Must admit that I miss the sound of those aircraft when they took off.
..
Still have a BOAC Junior Jet Club logbook which I was given whilst travelling as a boy on a BOAC Comet 4 (1964 and in First Class) in which there was a promotional leaflet on the upcoming introduction of the VC10.
Yes it would be great for people to experience what it was like to fly in those aircraft but getting parts etc. would be an economic nightmare.
Have to give it to the British aircraft industry credit for what they achieved in the 1950's and 1960's. One example being the introduction of Autoland capabilities in the Tridents.
I certainly dig log many miles as a passenger in the Viscounts as a boy.
Just feel grateful to have flown in Tridents, BAC1-11, Sunderland/Sandringham flying boats,BAE146 and Concorde.
Also the Caravelle10R although manufactured in France had a Dehavilland Comet cockpit.
Must admit that I miss the sound of those aircraft when they took off.
..
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The No Transgression Zone
Posts: 2,478
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by oldchina
"VC10 looks like a DC9 mated with a 707"
And it had a beautiful whale tail ..
And it had a beautiful whale tail ..
Originally Posted by Jhieminga
The ICAO type designators muddle the issue a bit, that is a completely separate list that was used in flightplans. From an old version: the VC7 code was used for the Viscount 700 series and the VC8 code for the Viscount 800 series but in a later update, both of these were merged into the VISC code. In a similar way, there used to be a separate code for the Standard and Super VC10s (VC10 and VC15 I think) but these were also merged into one VC10 code. I found the VANG code in an old ICAO doc, but internal Vickers documents did refer to the Vanguard as the VC9 AFAIK. I have a list of the Vickers Commercial numbers on my site too, it mostly follows the one in Andrews & Morgan's book: https://www.vc10.net/History/vc10_origins.html
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The No Transgression Zone
Posts: 2,478
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by boaccomet4
Must admit that I miss the sound of those aircraft when they took off.
..
