BAE / AVRO 146
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Flew a BAE 146 simulator for the first time the other day. Found the throttles very stiff to operate and quite distracting. Are the throttles in the real aeroplane like that?
Just like grandma’s Austin 1800, I always thought.
The Bring Another Engine was always very comfortable to fly in as a passenger- flown in them with Ansett, East- West and Southern Airlines.
Mate in Ansett reckons it was the only aeroplane that could get a bird strike up the rear, it was that slow.
The Bring Another Engine was always very comfortable to fly in as a passenger- flown in them with Ansett, East- West and Southern Airlines.
Mate in Ansett reckons it was the only aeroplane that could get a bird strike up the rear, it was that slow.
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Originally Posted by Centaurus
Flew a BAE 146 simulator for the first time the other day. Found the throttles very stiff to operate and quite distracting. Are the throttles in the real aeroplane like that?
From levers there is rod down to autothrottle clutches, directly under pedestal on E-bay, from there all the way up to the each engine pylon you will find steel cables and pulleys, from pylon to FCU is teleflex cable. (which needs frequent lubrication with thin oil to avoid extra stiffness)
If my memory serves right, throttles were quite unsophisticated to use. They felt all the time like something is chafing... Not pilot, but had hands on experience when doing eng ground runs.
Don't know how it was in the air if you need to adjust power, but on ground runs if you need to find some exact values for test purposes, moving these throttles requires sometimes few try to find correct position.
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In the air I found 'Boeing' to be the answer, since engine control was such that one could demand and synchronise temperstures as required, the numbers 717, 727, 737, and 747 from memory giving reasonable results.
Aircraft model shop at Castle Donington produced a replica for their display featuring two big engines and winglets. Such dreamers!
Aircraft model shop at Castle Donington produced a replica for their display featuring two big engines and winglets. Such dreamers!
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History and nostalgia to aid reminiscence - some large files
146 described
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i1oqswgdzy...ribed.pdf?dl=0
Production list, operators, and historical location, 2012
https://www.dropbox.com/s/53ypihjnhj...J1203.pdf?dl=0
146 Design features, tech sales
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cajqtqsjwu...tures.pdf?dl=0
146 Flightdeck features tech sales
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6c3ii2eim5...on%20.pdf?dl=0
146 described
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i1oqswgdzy...ribed.pdf?dl=0
Production list, operators, and historical location, 2012
https://www.dropbox.com/s/53ypihjnhj...J1203.pdf?dl=0
146 Design features, tech sales
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cajqtqsjwu...tures.pdf?dl=0
146 Flightdeck features tech sales
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6c3ii2eim5...on%20.pdf?dl=0
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Originally Posted by Corrosion
There is 100% mechanical connection from throttle lever to eng FCU, they are "firm" to use and over time they tends to stiffens. You are talking simutor but in real life they are anot feather light to use.
From levers there is rod down to autothrottle clutches, directly under pedestal on E-bay, from there all the way up to the each engine pylon you will find steel cables and pulleys, from pylon to FCU is teleflex cable.
From levers there is rod down to autothrottle clutches, directly under pedestal on E-bay, from there all the way up to the each engine pylon you will find steel cables and pulleys, from pylon to FCU is teleflex cable.
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Originally Posted by Vendee
....... with the TMS actuator the very last link between the teleflex and the FCU. I think the throttles could be a bit stiff. The fire handles/fuel shutoff were even worse as they didn't get used so often.
Think i work once with old 146 which was converted to RJ, that was bit strange bird as it is kind of mixture of both. It was one of the Braathens old birds on last C-check.
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Originally Posted by Stationair8
Just like grandma’s Austin 1800, I always thought.
The Bring Another Engine was always very comfortable to fly in as a passenger- flown in them with Ansett, East- West and Southern Airlines.
Mate in Ansett reckons it was the only aeroplane that could get a bird strike up the rear, it was that slow.
The Bring Another Engine was always very comfortable to fly in as a passenger- flown in them with Ansett, East- West and Southern Airlines.
Mate in Ansett reckons it was the only aeroplane that could get a bird strike up the rear, it was that slow.
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I have a vague recollection from the early 1960s that what became the 146 originated as a Handley Page concept, but was not proceeded with because of a lack of suitable sized engines. Then the Continentals came along, and the concept was resurrected.
Gnome de PPRuNe
380 748s, only slightly fewer!
I suggest "UK airliner" could also include the Dove and the Rapide both of which comfortably outsold even the Viscount!
I suggest "UK airliner" could also include the Dove and the Rapide both of which comfortably outsold even the Viscount!
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Originally Posted by G-ARZG
A mere 387 examples (!), outstripped by 445 Viscounts...
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