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Antonov AN-124-100?

Old 4th Jul 2019, 08:07
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You must have missed the bowser Chevvron, The Volga-Dnepr Group quotes range at max payload as 4,500km. Wiki gives it a maximum range (payload not noted) of 5,200km.
It's probably just about doable. The Range Rovers were reportedly bound for the Trans Siberian Rally, which actually starts in Moscow.

https://www.airliners.net/photo/Russ...-Ruslan/758578
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Old 4th Jul 2019, 08:50
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Pity they didn't build more of them TBH - they're a very useful aircraft when you need them for something outsize -especially if you're thinking of somewhere a bit out of the way................
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Old 4th Jul 2019, 10:16
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It's probably just about doable. The Range Rovers were reportedly bound for the Trans Siberian Rally, which actually starts in Moscow.
Agree DRUK, that makes more sense than Siberia

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Old 4th Jul 2019, 14:05
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Originally Posted by atakacs View Post
Sure

But out of the 50 remaining airframes I guess the only one you might see anymore are the 7 operated by Antonov. Volga-Dnepr can not operate in the European airspace anymore and I don't expect the Russian airforce to do much cargo moving in the UK. Just trying to say that this will very likely be a rarer sighting.
A quick check shows that Volga-Dnepr's RA82043 was in Marseille on 28 June, RA82044 flew to Paris on 2 July and 79 flew to Leipzig on 29 June.

The Maximus Air Cargo one is still very active also.
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Old 4th Jul 2019, 16:17
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No there is not any UK based AN-124 to my knowledge, they come to the UK quite frequently the first one I saw was in the 90's.
Air Foyle are were agents for AN-124 and had one more or less permanent in UK on standby. Also late lamented Heavylift had their logo on a couple of AN-124s for a spell. The IL-76s that wore Heavylift colours were dedicated to Oil Spill support work and not available for commercial use.
I believe photos exist of Heavylift AN-124s
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Old 4th Jul 2019, 18:08
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Thanks for that, the first one I saw was in the 90's when I worked at East Midlands Airport a impressive aircraft to watch. Like someone said in an earlier post they are frequent visitors to EMA. one was at RAF Waddington the other week.
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Old 4th Jul 2019, 18:53
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AN-124 at RAF Waddington, 23rd June 2019.


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Old 4th Jul 2019, 21:39
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
Two VDA An-124s due at Leipzig tomorrow (and one in Paris a couple of days ago), so definitely no ban on them operating in European airspace.
What do you make to this ?

If the manufacturer recedes their type certificate I'm not quite sure how they can operate (but not a lawyer and certainly not here to start a political discussion)
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 07:55
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What do you make to this ?

If the manufacturer recedes their type certificate I'm not quite sure how they can operate (but not a lawyer and certainly not here to start a political discussion)
Can't really add anything to the comments on that thread.

Clearly Ukraine has no jurisdiction over airspace or territory other than its own, so it's hardly in a position to "arrest" the aircraft or stop it operating in Europe or elsewhere (as we have seen).

Just part of the ongoing spat between Ukraine and Russia.
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 08:54
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Aircraft without a valid TC or CoA can be denied to enter a national airspace by that national aviation authority under the 1944 UN Chigaco Agreement Also, I don't think they will be insured by any insurance broker or company.
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 09:28
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As type certificate holders for the An-124, the Ukranian company can certainly stop the type from flying by withdrawing said certificate. But the fact that this is going through the courts implies that normal communication lines are not being used, and it may be more of a political action than an airworthiness related one. The type most likely is seen as a strategic asset by the Russian side, and it wouldn't surprise me to find out that they have taken steps to 'disconnect' the Russian operation from any Ukranian influence, as is implied by the original article linked to in the thread that atakacs referenced.
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 10:56
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Originally Posted by Jhieminga View Post
As type certificate holders for the An-124, the Ukranian company can certainly stop the type from flying by withdrawing said certificate.
Which would be rather a Pyrrhic victory as it would ground Ukrainian operator Antonov Airlines' aircraft as well. Presumably why they haven't done that.

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Old 5th Jul 2019, 13:15
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VDA's RA-82044 heading NW across Essex at 26000 and climbing as I type...
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 13:44
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Well I guess the ultimate test will be how long the Russians will be able to keep the engines serviceable without Ukrainian support.
To be honest the whole thing is a bit crazy but what do I know...
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The IL-76s that wore Heavylift colours were dedicated to Oil Spill support work and not available for commercial use.

Teesside Airport's one and only IL-76 was a Heavylift one with Nissan engines so they did do some cargo work.
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Old 6th Jul 2019, 17:23
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Teesside Airport's one and only IL-76 was a Heavylift one with Nissan engines so they did do some cargo work.
I was on good terms at one time with several Heavylift crew members, certainly at the beginning of the operation, they IL-76s were strictly call out for oil spill and crew training. The crews were accommodated in some very large caravans near Duxford. Mobile home sized beasts, but just how mobile Iím not sure.
perhaps later in the contract the CAA became more flexible? I honestly donít know.
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I was on good terms at one time with several Heavylift crew members, certainly at the beginning of the operation, they IL-76s were strictly call out for oil spill and crew training. The crews were accommodated in some very large caravans near Duxford. Mobile home sized beasts, but just how mobile I’m not sure.
perhaps later in the contract the CAA became more flexible? I honestly don’t know.
I worked in Heavylift Ops at the time the IL76 and An124's came on the scene. Certainly the IL76 (and Pelita Hercules) were on oil spill standby in the early days. Indeed, the IL76 crew complained about recency and we organised some training circuits at Stansted. I went along, but after two or three touch and go's the tower said the noise complaint phone line was ringing off the wall, and could we stop. After a while both the Herc and the IL76 were released to operate charters. We also had an AirStan IL76 we used.

The Herc crew were billeted at the Flint Cross Hotel near Duxford. The Russians lived in an old manor house near Bishops Stortford, plus some accommodation in Saffron Walden. I don't remember any crews living in caravans.

Also late lamented Heavylift had their logo on a couple of AN-124s for a spell. The IL-76s that wore Heavylift colours were dedicated to Oil Spill support work and not available for commercial use.
I believe photos exist of Heavylift AN-124s
Heavylift Volga Dnepr (it was a joint venture) had about eight AN214's on our ops board.

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Old 7th Jul 2019, 12:08
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Any more context about this picture?
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Old 8th Jul 2019, 19:21
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Choice.

Yes, well take the one in the middle!
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Old 8th Jul 2019, 20:15
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Not 100% but this looks like Leipzig (but on the passengers terminal side, not cargo). In any case don't know what the picture is supposed to depict (except for the probably rare confluence on 5 an124 at a given place)?
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