Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Misc. Forums > Aviation History and Nostalgia
Reload this Page >

EE Lightning – nuclear Bomber!?

Aviation History and Nostalgia Whether working in aviation, retired, wannabee or just plain fascinated this forum welcomes all with a love of flight.

EE Lightning – nuclear Bomber!?

Old 27th Apr 2019, 20:20
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 360
EE Lightning – nuclear Bomber!?

Read in Chris Gibson’s Secret Projects.
Desperate times lead to desperate measures …..
In the early 1950s the prospect of a formation of Soviet nuclear armed bombers heading our way lead to the idea of strapping a nuclear bomb to a Lightning to deal with them. No idea whether this was to be a kamikaze type mission though carrying a 2000lb Red Beard isn’t going to help its interception range.

In the end nuclear warheads became smaller and the idea was abandoned in favour of using the Bloodhound missile as the delivery method.
Brewster Buffalo is offline  
Old 27th Apr 2019, 20:35
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: UK
Posts: 0
From a Lightning pilot:

mmmmmmmmmm…………...
dook is offline  
Old 27th Apr 2019, 23:09
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: uk
Posts: 582
In the early 50s did we perhaps have a lot of Lightnings that were surplus to requirements?
oxenos is online now  
Old 28th Apr 2019, 07:57
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 1,873
The Lightning did have an unused ‘NWS’ (Nuclear Weapons Switch) on the stick-top !
safetypee is offline  
Old 28th Apr 2019, 08:34
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: London UK
Posts: 488
Was it actually a 'bomb' being considered, or the Genie air to air missile that had a nuclear warhead?
Dr Jekyll is offline  
Old 28th Apr 2019, 10:33
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: East Anglia
Age: 73
Posts: 159
Originally Posted by oxenos View Post
In the early 50s did we perhaps have a lot of Lightnings that were surplus to requirements?
Oxenos,

I very much doubt it as the first Lightning squadron did not form until 1960. As to carrying a nuclear bomb, as a two tour WIWOL I cannot imagine where it could have been carried. There were no wing/fuselage hardpoints apart from the 2 missile pylons which could only mount Firestreak. Space was at a premium in the Lightning fuselage but I suppose that the radome or weapons pack could have ben substituted. There was of course space in the 'elephant ears' !
nipva is offline  
Old 28th Apr 2019, 10:48
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: uk
Posts: 582
A bite already
oxenos is online now  
Old 28th Apr 2019, 10:50
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: UK
Posts: 0
safetypee,

Nice try with the NWS switch (and the wink emoji).

Never incorporated was the Nosewheel Steering but the NWS switch was fitted.

I share the comments of nipva and I am also a WIWOL of the same age.

oxenos, when did you fly the Lightning ?
dook is offline  
Old 28th Apr 2019, 10:57
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: uk
Posts: 582
oxenos, when did you fly the Lightning ?
I didn't, but I do enjoy a bit of fishing. You're the second bite today.
oxenos is online now  
Old 28th Apr 2019, 18:45
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: North Pole
Posts: 952
Dook! Let them have their little joke! We know that after defending our skies in the U.K. and Germany, we both went on to be single seat Strike/ Attack pilots who spent days in Q cuddling a tactical nuclear weapon! I think we deserve a bit more respect!
newt is offline  
Old 28th Apr 2019, 18:46
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 1,873
As I recall, the largest fitting on the Lightning weapons pylon was a Sea Vixen PR modified drop tank - MPC Valley, but never flown. The objective was to identify Jindivick towed target flare break up; a Phantom with PR pod was used with IR film - without success.
safetypee is offline  
Old 28th Apr 2019, 18:53
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: The woods
Posts: 1
Originally Posted by nipva View Post
Oxenos,

I very much doubt it as the first Lightning squadron did not form until 1960. As to carrying a nuclear bomb, as a two tour WIWOL I cannot imagine where it could have been carried. There were no wing/fuselage hardpoints apart from the 2 missile pylons which could only mount Firestreak. Space was at a premium in the Lightning fuselage but I suppose that the radome or weapons pack could have ben substituted. There was of course space in the 'elephant ears' !
Well unless my old lot (with hoses) were along to support them, they might have had the range to bomb the Isle of Wight...
bill fly is offline  
Old 28th Apr 2019, 19:09
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: UK
Posts: 0
Hello Newt.

It's amazing how threads here drift away from the first post.
dook is offline  
Old 28th Apr 2019, 19:19
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: uk
Posts: 582
bill fly, I think we might have upset the wiwols
oxenos is online now  
Old 28th Apr 2019, 19:27
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: UK
Posts: 0
That should be WIWOLS in upper case.
dook is offline  
Old 28th Apr 2019, 19:28
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: North Pole
Posts: 952
And that’s not a thing you should never do lightly! We still bite!

newt is offline  
Old 28th Apr 2019, 19:30
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: uk
Posts: 582
The fishing really is very good today,. Bite after bite. Still, they are only wiwols. Sorry WIWOLS.
oxenos is online now  
Old 28th Apr 2019, 19:47
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: North Pole
Posts: 952
Dook! Just look at his bio! Not even worth passing the time of day!
newt is offline  
Old 28th Apr 2019, 19:48
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: uk
Posts: 582
Not even worth passing the time of day!
Unless of course you were sitting in a dinghy
oxenos is online now  
Old 28th Apr 2019, 19:49
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: UK
Posts: 0
I already have looked.
dook is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.