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Old 27th Nov 2018, 21:08
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Thanks WHBM, amazing detail in this crowd! The time-table does take a while to work out but, a very good way to show route and time information - when you didn't have so many routes. Although I see the isle of Man is mentioned! I'm going to print it at a large scale to investigate. My Grandfather must have been so delighted that civil aviation had reached that stage just two decades after WWI.
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Old 28th Nov 2018, 09:10
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Early on there was mention of Elsan emptying. In the 1980s the airman detailed for Elsan duties was paid 50p per day, taxed, not per Elsan but per day. In order not to saddle one poor soul with the duty and to spread the bountiful largess the duty was spread around.

I once had to do it, liquids only, and I didn't know where there was a sluice. There was a handy drain nearby.
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Old 28th Nov 2018, 11:05
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Originally Posted by chevvron View Post
From a discussion on another website, the airfield you have marked is the original Heathrow airfield; Faireys Great West was to the north west of this, abutting the A4 Great West Road near the 'Peggy Bedford'.
Found a better picture to resolve any remaining confusion:



This shows Fairey's Great West Aerodrome, presumably not long after the hangar was built as none of the ancillary buildings are present. It doesn't yet have "Fairey" painted on the roof, though it does by the time the photo at the bottom of this page was taken in 1934.

The hangar was at the northmost point of the airfield, whose boundaries can be clearly seen in conjunction with the map in my previous post: Cain's Lane in the foreground (running NW-SE), Heathrow Road in the top right (ran from the Three Magpies to Perry Oaks), High Tree Lane (to West Bedfont) running across the top of the photo and, just visible at the top left, the line of the Duke of Northumberland's River.

So no part of the airfield extended as far as the Great West Road, in fact the Fairey hangar was roughly where Terminal 2 is nowadays, as the crow flies almost exactly a mile and three-quarters distant from the Peggy Bedford (as was).

Hope that helps.
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Old 28th Nov 2018, 19:43
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All lovely info. Many thanks. Just a couple more of the Tipsy Two.

My father on the left and my uncle on the right. As far as I know, this is 1937.
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Old 28th Nov 2018, 21:11
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Originally Posted by PAXboy View Post
The time-table does take a while to work out but, a very good way to show route and time information .
I think the timetable was produced by Lufthansa, or their timetable contract printer, as several airlines in the region used what appear to be the same printing blocks for the black, and then each overprinted their own stuff in red. It would appear the black was hand engraved (with neat writing) in reverse on a metal plate for printing - not uncommon in those times, contemporary road atlases were done the same way.

Finnair were the last to use this diagrammatic approach, even in the 1970s their domestic timetable was done this way.

Unfortunately pre-war aircraft types were not shown. They seem to have been somewhat fluid anyway, but such came about from around 1950. In recent times they have increasingly gone again.
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Old 28th Nov 2018, 22:38
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Originally Posted by PAXboy View Post
Just a couple more of the Tipsy Two.
I'm curious to know where the first one might have been taken. If I'm not mistaken, that's one of Harry Hawker's finest in the background, might help to narrow it down.
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Old 28th Nov 2018, 22:47
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Couldn't be Langley could it?
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Old 28th Nov 2018, 23:49
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No idea on location. The original albums (and my father) long gone. Even the date is a question mark.

WHBM. I see that, now, the EQU detail has gone from online tables, saves hassle when they change at short notice, or just for a season or during scheduled maintenance. As we know, lots of folks have no idea what they are in anyway and don not care. I don't think anyne prints tables any more.
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Warning! Early 'photoshopped' picture!! My grandfather was good at PR!

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The shadow of the tailplane gives it away: the sun shines from the left on the Tower bridge, but from the right on the tailplane.
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'FCM was also burned at Slough in '52...
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Not from my collection but on behalf of folks I met this week: All suggestions welcome!
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Battle of Hastings
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And Happy Christmas to you WHBM. Back to the sherry trifle ...
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OK, OK, it's the RAF (somewhere in the Sahara) 1955 Knobbly Knees Contest.
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These are indeed Handley Page Hastings of RAF Transport Command.
Most photos I found are however with spinners (propellers caps).
Could these been dismounted to improve motor cooling?
Or are these fitted on the later models?
I see only C1ís without spinners (but also with spinners)
On Wikimedia Commons I find C1ís without spinners in Amman and Christmas Island

Hope it helpís,

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All I know is that their father (one of the men in the picture) was a ground engineer in his National Service and went to Egypt. He turned 18 in march 1950. sp this could be late 50 through to early 52. Were there many airbases in Egypt? Aa this was before Suez, I'm guessing Yes.
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In looking up other detail about the Hastings - I found a photo on a page of '3 Para' of one of their Jeeps, strapped to the belly of a Hastings - ready for an air drop! I have not linked as it is Copyright but an easy search. In this picture, please confirm (in particular) the top aircraft. Thanks.
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It's the Shuttleworth Collection's Gloster Gladiator G-AMRK with their Spitfire V and Lysander. The Gladiator is in its Norwegian scheme which indicates the pic was taken sometime after 1997 which was also around the time they acquired the Lizzie from Strathallan.
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Thanks, it was the Gladiator that foxed me.
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