Past Operators and Destinations at LCY
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Brymon was the first, they did all the hard work including the first landing at Canary Wharf early eighties with the dash 7. Capt Harry Gee in command.
On start up of the first commercial flights the service operated PLH-LCY- CDG then several CDG rotations, the aircraft then operated back to PLH in the evening for routine maintenance. The PLH-LCY-PLH sectors didn't last long, low pax numbers, therefore engineering came up with a maintenance plan that did not require the aircraft to return to PLH every night.
On start up of the first commercial flights the service operated PLH-LCY- CDG then several CDG rotations, the aircraft then operated back to PLH in the evening for routine maintenance. The PLH-LCY-PLH sectors didn't last long, low pax numbers, therefore engineering came up with a maintenance plan that did not require the aircraft to return to PLH every night.
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Once the announcement was made that the route was going, it was pretty full nearly every day. Odd.
Another operator was OLT to Bremen.
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That's where they went wrong. Maybe they should have told everyone that it was going when they launched it
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Flexair Do-228, RTM, 1990
https://www.londoncityairport.com/do...11%20fv_sm.pdf
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Didn't KLM start a short lived service from the original Sheffield City Airport?
Also a business operator offered a daily link from there but unsure whether that ever operated.
Also a business operator offered a daily link from there but unsure whether that ever operated.
Kosmar Greek Holidays had seen Tyrolean AW operate their Dash 7's into the greek Islands namely Paros and Naxos (next to mykonos) and talked to London City Airways in 1987 about a possible charter flight on a Friday night from LCY to PAS using a 50 seat Dash 7
the premium cost would have attracted the passengers wanting to go direct to Paros or Naxos by avoiding a LGW-ATH night flight then a 7 hour ferry from Piraeus port to the islands - there were no fast ferries then only the conventional car ferries of dubious origin
back then the Friday night ATH charters were often seriously delayed - the norm was 12 hours or more either ATC or Tech, or both! - many were op'd by KT TriStars or Dan Air and Amberair and their AOG reputation went before them especially at weekends in july and and august causing the pax to miss the 7am ferries to the islands and losing 2 days of their holiday
after much discussion with LCYairways we decided not to go ahead as fuel costs went up due Middle East issues and the operation was although exciting and quite doable it needed careful planning for ops and crewing
BA (CF) now successfully operate LCY to both mykonos and further down to santorini with the EMB jets (skiathos too i think)
the premium cost would have attracted the passengers wanting to go direct to Paros or Naxos by avoiding a LGW-ATH night flight then a 7 hour ferry from Piraeus port to the islands - there were no fast ferries then only the conventional car ferries of dubious origin
back then the Friday night ATH charters were often seriously delayed - the norm was 12 hours or more either ATC or Tech, or both! - many were op'd by KT TriStars or Dan Air and Amberair and their AOG reputation went before them especially at weekends in july and and august causing the pax to miss the 7am ferries to the islands and losing 2 days of their holiday
after much discussion with LCYairways we decided not to go ahead as fuel costs went up due Middle East issues and the operation was although exciting and quite doable it needed careful planning for ops and crewing
BA (CF) now successfully operate LCY to both mykonos and further down to santorini with the EMB jets (skiathos too i think)
1370 nm in a Dash 7 ???
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AirUK operates the 146 from LCY to EDI and AMS. They also operated the F50 to MAN. They also operates to RTM but I can’t remember if this was only the F50 or was also the 146 (they certainly did RTM-STN with the 146).
AirUK/KLMuk did Sheffield to AMS with the F50 but I don’t think there was a LCY service.
I don’t think the VLM LCY-JER has been mentioned yet.
AirUK/KLMuk did Sheffield to AMS with the F50 but I don’t think there was a LCY service.
I don’t think the VLM LCY-JER has been mentioned yet.
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I flew back BSL-LCY on a Crossair Saab 2000 back in the late 1990's. Memorable mainly for the very strong thunderstorms just off the Essex coast that tossed us around quite a bit.
Brymon was the first, they did all the hard work including the first landing at Canary Wharf early eighties with the dash 7. Capt Harry Gee in command.
1) Convinced the ARB/CAA to recognise that there was technical and commercial justification for STOL aircraft to be certificated to different standards than the usual FAR 25 Transport Category (i.e. 7.5 degree approach slope (although this was later reduced to 5.5 degrees to allow other, less capable types in).
2) Considerable lobbying and marketing in support of the LCY concept, which gave London Docklands the courage to proceed with the airport against much resistance.
3) Bought Brymon and supported it financially for three years after its collapse when the pound went south in 1983.
I think more of the routes I have used from LCY have gone than remain !
Conti-Flug 146 to Berlin Tempelhof. My first LCY trip. They subsequently extended midday from Berlin to Venice, and advertised through service from LCY, though hardly any pax did so.
AirUK 146 to Belfast, given up. British European DH8-300 to Belfast, given up. Scot Airways (operating for Cityjet) to Belfast, given up. Hmmm.
Cityjet to Nice.
British Midland to Leeds, on an ATR-42. Actually it was an Air Atlantique aircraft wet-leased in with an oddball paint scheme. I was one of (very) few pax, it didn't last long. Included a landing on the cross-runway at LBA, which was apparently a rarity. Likewise once had a Cityjet departure from Dublin for LCY off the old short north runway 11/29, now closed, most surprising until I looked up its length and found it was actually longer than LCY !
VLM to Manchester, at one stage about 8 daily, shame that went.
Jet Magic Emb-135 to Cork. Purple livery.
Ones I didn't take included Sabena (remember them) DH8-300, and even 146, to Brussels. KLM Dornier 328 to Berne, Switzerland (a commuter codeshare but full KLM livery). Malmo Aviation 146 to Stockholm. SAS Q400 to Copenhagen (very short lived), and the ludicrously-named World Airlines, who started just two daily round trips to Amsterdam for a couple of months before losing their only aircraft to the bailiffs right on the LCY ramp, it was pushed to where gate 11 is now, writ stuck on the door, and the oldest LCY ramp van was wheelclamped right across the front of it. I would guess they had never paid their landing fees. Their startup publicity had included 50 London taxis fully liveried about the airline and Amsterdam, must have been a 12 month contract, they were on the road long after the airline went bust.
Here's an actual video of it - it's landing on Heron Quay, just where the Heron Quay DLR station is now.
Bit of a wobbly one by Harry, but all credit to him for pulling it off, to whom there is a commemorative plaque at the foot of the DLR station escalators.
Conti-Flug 146 to Berlin Tempelhof. My first LCY trip. They subsequently extended midday from Berlin to Venice, and advertised through service from LCY, though hardly any pax did so.
AirUK 146 to Belfast, given up. British European DH8-300 to Belfast, given up. Scot Airways (operating for Cityjet) to Belfast, given up. Hmmm.
Cityjet to Nice.
British Midland to Leeds, on an ATR-42. Actually it was an Air Atlantique aircraft wet-leased in with an oddball paint scheme. I was one of (very) few pax, it didn't last long. Included a landing on the cross-runway at LBA, which was apparently a rarity. Likewise once had a Cityjet departure from Dublin for LCY off the old short north runway 11/29, now closed, most surprising until I looked up its length and found it was actually longer than LCY !
VLM to Manchester, at one stage about 8 daily, shame that went.
Jet Magic Emb-135 to Cork. Purple livery.
Ones I didn't take included Sabena (remember them) DH8-300, and even 146, to Brussels. KLM Dornier 328 to Berne, Switzerland (a commuter codeshare but full KLM livery). Malmo Aviation 146 to Stockholm. SAS Q400 to Copenhagen (very short lived), and the ludicrously-named World Airlines, who started just two daily round trips to Amsterdam for a couple of months before losing their only aircraft to the bailiffs right on the LCY ramp, it was pushed to where gate 11 is now, writ stuck on the door, and the oldest LCY ramp van was wheelclamped right across the front of it. I would guess they had never paid their landing fees. Their startup publicity had included 50 London taxis fully liveried about the airline and Amsterdam, must have been a 12 month contract, they were on the road long after the airline went bust.
Any photos of the DC6 at LCY?
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