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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 01:36
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Apart from the five former British Airtours Tristars that were initially transferred to Caledonian Airways in 1997 they operated a total of 19 during the airlines existence a lot of them were leased from several airlines as well as those transferred from British Airways although the list is a bit long to add right now.

Caledonian operated upto six DC10-30 during it's existence although not all of them were in service with the airline at the same time.

G-NIUK in service with Caledonian from 09.09.94 to 02.02.97 (to British Airways as G-NIUK)

G-BWIN in service with Caledonian from 21.11.1995 to 19.07.1996 (to Laker as N831LA)

OO-LRM in service with Caledonian from 28.05.1997 to 01.05.1998 (to Challenge Air as OO-LRM)

G-BHDH in service with Caledonian from 06.04.1993 to 31.10.1995 (to British Airways as G-BHDH)

G-LYON in service with Caledonian from 11.03.1998 to 27.03.2000 (to JMC as G-LYON)

G-GOKT in service with Caledonian from 02.05.1996 to 27.03.2000 (to JMC as G-GOKT)

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Broadly speaking, at Caledonian (when owned by BA) the Tristars were used short haul to the Mediterranean, on traditional Airtours operations, and the DC-10s were used on long haul holiday flights, principally to Florida and the Caribbean. It varied each season but this was the general trend. Mostly both fleets operated from Gatwick, with minor departures from elsewhere. As had been longstanding with the Airtours/Caledonian holiday flight operations, standing in for main line operations from Heathrow in the off season was part of the way of keeping winter utilisation up.

Likewise the mainline BA Tristars operated from Heathrow and the DC-10s, after being absorbed from B. Cal, from Gatwick, although there were odd exceptions for short intervals both ways.
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MDC model, 1976

CP Air had also been interested in the RB.211 engine and MDC reckoned that BCal would have changed to it but the company dropped the 30R project when they lost BA as a launch customer.

Conversely Lockheed had tried to tempt BCal to wait for TriStar 500 by offering a cheap multi-year lease of the long-body variant but that would have required an interim refuelling stop to reach Rio, which the airline felt to be uncompetitive. So they went for the DC-10, initially for three with the CF6 whilst MDC worked on the 30R ( with the prospect of an engine swap later ) and then a second tranche with the CF6 once the 30R was no longer available.

Interestingly BCal were also tempted by the 747SP which would have made an interesting addition to the BA fleet...
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There was also a winterflight using the 10 from LGW-Faro, a great favourite for staff travel as a seat always guaranteed. We used them from LHR to a couple of West African destinations because the cargo uplift was superior to that of th 1011.
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I was driving thru’ Cantley, near Doncaster, yesterday and saw what looked like a DC10 painted all white landing at DSA
Does it belong to the Canadian freighter company ? Anyone know?
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Looking at flightaware for 02 Jan 18 there doesn't appear to have been any DC10 movements at DSA.
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More likely an MD-11, there are a few white US registered examples.
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Originally Posted by NRU74
I was driving thru’ Cantley, near Doncaster, yesterday and saw what looked like a DC10 painted all white landing at DSA
Does it belong to the Canadian freighter company ? Anyone know?
N415JN MD11 of Western Global opf Allied Air Cargo.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
N415JN MD11 of Western Global opf Allied Air Cargo.
Thanks very much for the info.
Even after over 20 years aircrew in the RAF my aircraft recognition wasn’t that good- but I knew it wasn’t a Bizjet and it did look like a DC10.
Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by pax britanica
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I think there were occasional 'Euro' Dc10s into LHR too, for busy flights after disruption or football matches SAS used them i think and KLM and occasionally Finnair but these were not really scheduled . Ghana airways had a solitary one too.

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The Ghana Airways DC10 is now a restaurant in Accra, the "Green Plane". It's on the airport but away from the terminal. I've driven by but never gone in.
A quick google search will bring up a BBC news article.
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Originally Posted by pax britanica
I think there were occasional 'Euro' Dc10s into LHR too, for busy flights after disruption or football matches SAS used them i think and KLM and occasionally Finnair but these were not really scheduled . Ghana airways had a solitary one too.
Several European airlines actually scheduled DC-10s into LHR daily, most commonly around 9 am. These were aircraft which had arrived at base early morning and could be given a fill-in trip to London and back at what then was the time of peak demand during the business day. They would be back at base by lunchtime.

Both KLM and Swissair scheduled these, and Iberia seemed a regular as well. They had previously done the same with DC-8s.
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Both KLM and Swissair scheduled these, and Iberia seemed a regular as well. They had previously done the same with DC-8s.
And, in Swissair's case, subsequently with the MD-11. The only time I've ever flown on one of those was from Zurich to LHR.
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Originally Posted by Thruster763
The Ghana Airways DC10 is now a restaurant in Accra, the "Green Plane". It's on the airport but away from the terminal. I've driven by but never gone in.
A quick google search will bring up a BBC news article.
A decade or two back some of my colleagues were heavily involved in airside upgrade work at Kotoka Airport; some of the pics they bought back showed at least three Ghana Airways DC-10s - I thought they only ever had the one.

Edit: I see they actually had six, from a variety of sources. The original 9G-ANA was scrapped, 9G-ANB is the restaurant, was originally with Thai.

The only DC-10 I flew in (twice) was Air Florida's N1035F, good to see it's still flying with FedEx.
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Originally Posted by Thruster763
The Ghana Airways DC10 is now a restaurant in Accra, the "Green Plane". It's on the airport but away from the terminal. I've driven by but never gone in.
A quick google search will bring up a BBC news article.
Formerly Malaysian Airlines 9M-MAW, went on to become 9G-ANB before ending up as an eatery.

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