S 1596
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An interesting discussion here, but it doesn't answer your question.
Aircraft: Supermarine S.6B
I'll be in Santa Monica in three weeks and I'll make some enquiries at the museum.
An interesting discussion here, but it doesn't answer your question.
Aircraft: Supermarine S.6B
I'll be in Santa Monica in three weeks and I'll make some enquiries at the museum.
Whish one did John Boothman fly to win the Schneider Trophy outright in 1931. Lovely stained glass memorial window to his achievement over the entrance to what was Harrow County Boys School
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I occasionally work and volunteer at Solent Sky. According to our archivists, this is a summary of 'our' aircraft, S6a N248.
History of Supermarine S6a N248
This aircraft was built in 1929 for the Schneider Trophy contest to be flown in September of that year at Calshot. It was flown in the race by Flying Officer R.L.R.Atcherley but was disqualified for missing a pylon on the course. The pilot’s goggles came off during the flight and as a consequence he failed to see the pylon, however he set up a new world speed record of 332mph. During a practice flight in 1931 a section of the engine cowling came off resulting in an emergency landing which was unfortunately performed in the wake of an Ocean Liner resulting in the aircraft overturning. However N248 was salvaged and repaired in time to become a reserve aircraft for the 1931 competition.
When talking to people about 'our' aircraft we all say that the aircraft that won the schneider trophy was the S6B N1595.
History of Supermarine S6a N248
This aircraft was built in 1929 for the Schneider Trophy contest to be flown in September of that year at Calshot. It was flown in the race by Flying Officer R.L.R.Atcherley but was disqualified for missing a pylon on the course. The pilot’s goggles came off during the flight and as a consequence he failed to see the pylon, however he set up a new world speed record of 332mph. During a practice flight in 1931 a section of the engine cowling came off resulting in an emergency landing which was unfortunately performed in the wake of an Ocean Liner resulting in the aircraft overturning. However N248 was salvaged and repaired in time to become a reserve aircraft for the 1931 competition.
When talking to people about 'our' aircraft we all say that the aircraft that won the schneider trophy was the S6B N1595.
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Yes, I believe that S1595 (at the Science Museum in London) is the aircraft that won the Schneider Trophy and that it was, indeed, flown by John Boothman.
To my knowledge, N247 and N248 were the S6A's and S1595 and S1596 were the S6B's. Until the 1960s, S.6A N248 (currently at SolentSky, below) was displayed incorrectly as S.6B S1596. It has certainly been displayed correctly as N248 since 1983 when the musuem opened.
Trevor (occasionally working, usually smiling, at SolentSky Museum)
To my knowledge, N247 and N248 were the S6A's and S1595 and S1596 were the S6B's. Until the 1960s, S.6A N248 (currently at SolentSky, below) was displayed incorrectly as S.6B S1596. It has certainly been displayed correctly as N248 since 1983 when the musuem opened.
Trevor (occasionally working, usually smiling, at SolentSky Museum)
I got to sit in the cockpit of N248 in 1955. It was in the Hampshire Aeroplane Club hangar at Eastleigh and I can confirm that it was painted as S1596 at the time. Incidentally, it shared the hangar with Sea Gladiator N5903.
Supermarine S6 at the Festival of Britain 1951
In 1951 on the way from RAF Hednesford to Southampton, I together with others in Rhodesia Draft 2128 on the way to the join the liner that was to convey us to the Rhodesian Air Training Group, had time to spare at Waterloo and visited the Festival of Britain exhibition on the site adjacent to Waterloo station, the date from my diary shows it was Wednesday 18th July.
The photos show the outside of the Transport Pavilion with railway locomotives, among other exhibits on show and inside in the tall glass-fronted aviation gallery there was a Schneider Trophy Supermarine S.6 seaplane and DH88 Comet 1930's racer on display.
Can't quite make out the tail number of the S6 but it looks like 59xx
The photos show the outside of the Transport Pavilion with railway locomotives, among other exhibits on show and inside in the tall glass-fronted aviation gallery there was a Schneider Trophy Supermarine S.6 seaplane and DH88 Comet 1930's racer on display.
Can't quite make out the tail number of the S6 but it looks like 59xx
I seem to recall reading many years ago in Aeroplane Monthly that the reason for N248 being painted as S1596 was for an appearance in the film 'First of the Few'. Subsequent to that it remained in it's film markings and over the years the original identity became lost until restoration for display in Southampton.
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My first post on this Forum so here we go!
S1596 Maybe twenty years ago a photo appeared in probably FlyPast rather than Aeroplane Monthly of N248 on the back of a truck parked at a truck stop / café I think it said on the old Great North Road. Of course that's been the A1 for many years. Nothing else was known about the photo as far as I can recall. The best guess then by our group was that it was on the way to a scrap yard because the RAF big wigs of the day wanted to lose the High Speed Flight down as quickly as possible.
S1596 Maybe twenty years ago a photo appeared in probably FlyPast rather than Aeroplane Monthly of N248 on the back of a truck parked at a truck stop / café I think it said on the old Great North Road. Of course that's been the A1 for many years. Nothing else was known about the photo as far as I can recall. The best guess then by our group was that it was on the way to a scrap yard because the RAF big wigs of the day wanted to lose the High Speed Flight down as quickly as possible.
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My first post on this Forum so here we go!
S1596 Maybe twenty years ago a photo appeared in probably FlyPast rather than Aeroplane Monthly of N248 on the back of a truck parked at a truck stop / café I think it said on the old Great North Road. Of course that's been the A1 for many years. Nothing else was known about the photo as far as I can recall. The best guess then by our group was that it was on the way to a scrap yard because the RAF big wigs of the day wanted to lose the High Speed Flight down as quickly as possible.
S1596 Maybe twenty years ago a photo appeared in probably FlyPast rather than Aeroplane Monthly of N248 on the back of a truck parked at a truck stop / café I think it said on the old Great North Road. Of course that's been the A1 for many years. Nothing else was known about the photo as far as I can recall. The best guess then by our group was that it was on the way to a scrap yard because the RAF big wigs of the day wanted to lose the High Speed Flight down as quickly as possible.
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Sorry I confused myself. You are correct,
I should have written that the photo was supposed to be of S1596. It was before the days of Internet forums and the only other comment I can recall at this distance is that somewhere was a comment that it was the 'missing' member of the S6 series. Unless some one somewhere has saved a copy of that magazine with published image and the short letter I do not know what else to suggest.
I should have written that the photo was supposed to be of S1596. It was before the days of Internet forums and the only other comment I can recall at this distance is that somewhere was a comment that it was the 'missing' member of the S6 series. Unless some one somewhere has saved a copy of that magazine with published image and the short letter I do not know what else to suggest.
The picture in post 10 shows the S6b with the number 7 on the fuselage. The page George Stainforth in the Supermarine S6B shows that it was S1596 with the "7" on the fuselage.
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The picture in post 10 shows the S6b with the number 7 on the fuselage. The page George Stainforth in the Supermarine S6B shows that it was S1596 with the "7" on the fuselage.
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It is an old plane, why do you expect it to be shiny? On a serious note, the finish is original, and only preservation is planned, not restoration. It was explained years ago in FP magazine.