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The Lady Who Flew Africa

Old 2nd Jul 2016, 14:59
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A couple of days ago she unveiled the Cody First Flight Marker, in Farnborough Road, Farnborough where the first manned and powered flight in Britain took off from. See here:Watch: Historic spot of Britain's first flight commemorated in Farnborough - Get Hampshire
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Old 3rd Jul 2016, 11:17
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How on earth can the Boeing PR department allow their name to be in any way connected to this sad affair? {apart from having built the aircraft many years ago} As my youngest daughter said {a B737 pilot by the way} "I hope these guys don't have anything to do with writing the manuals for Boeing , as this whole affair is total fiction!" Tracy Curtis is a total "Walt", or whatever a female "Walt" is!

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Old 3rd Jul 2016, 13:52
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Waltrud perhaps ?

It's definitely an unusual way to promote the achievements of someone reenacting the amazing adventures of yesteryear. Did the lady not realise that in this day and age of internet her less that honest interpretation of the trips would come to light ?
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Old 3rd Jul 2016, 14:38
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Now I read here that much of that stuff was taken care of for her.
Very nearly all is a better description. She had the airline pilot owner of the biplane, Ewald Gritsch in the front seat for nearly the entire trip.
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Old 3rd Jul 2016, 19:23
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Oh, and don't forget that she did admit that she had "a small support team" accompany her.
Only seven people, including that inconveniently-noticed 'passenger', Ewald Gritsch.

Further, she was disparaging of Amy Johnson's feat in attempting to better Bert Hinkler's record, saying that Amy 'just crashed her way through the trip", .. whereas
I was more organised.
On top of that, she said, Amy Johnson didn't have to be bothered with radio communications or airspace restrictions.
Yes, sweetie.

Of course, it was terrible. After each two or three hour leg, she needed the next day or two to recover.
Most of Amy Johnson's legs were in the region of ten hours or even more.

Ah yes, let's all raise a glass to that modern-day icon, the Boadica of women in aviation .. and her sky-borne chariot - "The Spirit of Artifice".
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Old 3rd Jul 2016, 22:28
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The Mods have already merged threads about this lady's exploits, so the conversation is probably best continued here?
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Old 4th Jul 2016, 06:17
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Stuart,
Can it be asked just why you feel that?
Last time I looked, this was AH&N and the subject of this thread does indeed have relevance here.

The two threads that were merged were both on the Private Flying sub-forum.
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Old 4th Jul 2016, 07:56
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This thread seems to be less and less about History and/or Nostalgia as reality has been acknowledged.
For most of the past year it has mainly been claim/counter-claim about the "solo" aspect so perhaps it should be locked or moved (or both!).
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Old 4th Jul 2016, 08:43
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I'm afraid I can't fully agree with your proposition there, Allan.
This thread has largely been about a latter-day character who had claimed to be emulating the feats of two truly remarkable aviatrices - first, Lady Mary Heath and then, Amy Johnson.

The fact that it has turned out that this person is neither an emulator nor anything like a remarkable aviator is of interest to many of us who frequent this sub-forum.
Further, her rudely interrupted commemoration of the pioneering US mailplane flyers' feats is, I understand, planned to continue in the near future.
We'll be watching that with bated breath.

As with any thread here on PPRuNe, (or anywhere else, for that matter), if you are finding that the content is not providing you with the satisfaction you seek, then you are under no obligation to read it.
There's plenty of material available elsewhere that may more adequately fulfil your needs.
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Old 5th Jul 2016, 06:35
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perhaps it should be locked or moved (or both!).
Since TCT was flying (at least some of the time, I assume) a 1942 Stearman and claimed to be emulating historic flights I think it's reasonable for the topic to be discussed in this forum as well as in Private Flying.

If you don't find this thread interesting don't read it.
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Old 6th Jul 2016, 09:22
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Quote from Allan Lupton:
"This thread seems to be less and less about History and/or Nostalgia as reality has been acknowledged.
For most of the past year it has mainly been claim/counter-claim about the "solo" aspect so perhaps it should be locked or moved (or both!)."


Ironic that someone should be questioning the legitimacy of a thread about a feat the authenticity of which it is currently discussing.

This was indeed a private flight in that the aircraft was presumably not operating with a public-transport C of A but, in view of the considerable revenue that the operation must be earning by virtue of the documentary filming, and the wages paid to the support team, it could hardly claim to be an amateur operation.

The nominated pilot claims to be emulating at least two historic flights: the raisons d'être of her journeys. Historic flights are meat and drink to regulars of AH&N.

It can be tiresome, admittedly, having parallel threads on different parts of PPRuNe but, looking at the merged threads on the Private Flying forum, I notice that the first post is dated April 2016. So this thread on AH&N predates it by a year or so.
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Old 10th Jul 2016, 01:05
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Originally Posted by Warmtoast
A couple of days ago she unveiled the Cody First Flight Marker, in Farnborough Road, Farnborough where the first manned and powered flight in Britain took off from. See here:Watch: Historic spot of Britain's first flight commemorated in Farnborough - Get Hampshire
The start point of the first fight was on the rise just west of the present airfield; in those days it was open space called Cove Common. Now in the middle of the Aviator car park, it was originally in front of the RFC/RAF Officers Mess main building and was marked by a bronze Spitfire replica about 2 ft span on a plinth. When the Officers Mess closed mid/late 90s, it was left there and someone asshole nicked it one night about a year later. Don't know it it's ever been found.
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Old 10th Jul 2016, 01:16
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Originally Posted by Airclues
Is it a 'solo' flight if you have 'crew' on board, even if they are not a pilot?
Some years ago there was a problem with Air Cadet 'Vigilant' (aka Grob 109b) motor gliders with the engine cutting out. Cadets had to do one solo circuit to get their wings so in order to maintain a throughput of cadets qualifying, they did a 'ghost solo' flight with an instructor in the right hand seat.
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Old 10th Jul 2016, 06:50
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" it was originally in front of the RFC/RAF Officers Mess main building and was marked by a bronze Spitfire replica about 2 ft span on a plinth."
By memory the Spitfire was only put on the plinth for special occasions. A good wind up line was always " Do tell me, how did he manage to clear the mess garden fence ?"
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Old 7th Aug 2016, 16:59
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I just cant believe how bloody gullible and ill informed some folks are, one of my offspring has been a supporter of one of the largest women's aviation organisations, we just received a copy of the June edition of their magazine, and there she is, Curtis Drain Valve spouting of the same bull again, how can an editor be so bloody uninformed and gullible? What makes it worse is that the magazine contains obituaries and articles on some of our great female WW2 ferry pilots, they are and were deserving of praise, not this phoney!

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Old 7th Aug 2016, 19:51
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Clunckdriver,
Most women aviators that I know are quite aware of the TCT scam and are not impressed.
The editor of that rag must be going for the 'Grand Goose of the Year' award.

In other news, I understand that the forthcoming edition of the 'Grong-Grong Poultry Farmers Gazette' is to feature
a double-page spread on Tracey's exploits.
Unfortunately, TCT herself was not available to be interviewed, so they'll just have to run with the material provided in
her somewhat dog-eared press release.
Pathetic.
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Old 10th Aug 2016, 13:43
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I just cant believe how bloody gullible and ill informed some folks are
Speaking to someone very close to the HCAP the other day I was perturbed to discover precisely the same thing; it was clear that the individual knew (or feigned to know) nothing of the truth behind any of this sorry story and was of the opinion that The Spirit of Artifice was infact owned by the lady in question. Is she that convincing that people who should know better don't even check facts?
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Old 10th Aug 2016, 14:14
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I think President Reagan got it right, "Trust, but verify", clearly this is not being done by editors and others who should know better, after all, there have been many cases of "Walts" in this industry which should act as a heads up in this case.
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Old 3rd Sep 2016, 16:11
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Has Curtis Drain Valve given up her Walter Mitty life or has the press/media caught on and is simply ignoring her? Kind of miss her and her fantasy world!
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Old 3rd Sep 2016, 16:29
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Apparently, she was on the Glasgow Beeb radio the other day.
Her accounts of her adventures are just becoming sillier and more fanciful each time she relates them.
The interviewer was lapping it up, though.
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