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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 05:31
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It looks like a wooden glider cockpit, but the wings seem to extend in front of the cockpit. Is this one of the Horten delta-wing gliders?
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"Delta-wing"? Hmm. Not really. You tell me. The blue is a clue.

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Construction comprised plywood cockpit and fabric (linen doped) wings. Yes, the construction is particularly robust, as can be seen by the elevon/ailevon connecting rods from the base of the joy-stick.

VNE was 130 knots.

Best Glide ratio was around: 1:28.5 @ 55 mph/ 48 knots.

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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 15:13
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Simon of "India Four Two" fame is sure to get this challenge. He soars above the Livingston Range, west of Cowley, from late March to mid August. He is probably enjoying a steaming hot bowl of Pho in "Nam" right now. We can only covet.

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Fauvel AV.36? However the specs you quoted don’t match.

I wish I was in Saigon. I looked out of the window to see yet more snow. We’ve had a whole winter’s worth and it’s only the equinox!

bri, please see my PM.
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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 16:12
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Blue is a clue, as is the lovely sculpted step nose fuselage-to-cockpit. Fauvel? This mystery bird had no tail.
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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 18:17
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This looks promising:



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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 19:49
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Correct! The Argentinian FMA I. Ae-34 "Sun Ray". A Horten XVa swept-wing tail-less design. One and Two-place models (with a step cockpit),were produced. Simon clearly has control.
https://i.imgur.com/Cv5Dk9L.jpg

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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 23:20
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Yes indeed! The Cowley Ridge:


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Old 23rd Dec 2019, 01:25
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I would have loved to have flown that! Imagine if Horten had designed it with a reclining cockpit, although it looks like he still would have needed to keep some fin area.

I don't get the Cowley connection. Here's a view for those not familiar with the Livingstone Range at Cowley, AB:




Nothing to hand so Open House.

PS Initially, I thought those robust elevator connections were control locks!
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Old 23rd Dec 2019, 02:38
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Thank you, Simon, for the crisp photos of the magnificent Alberta Rockies.

Here is another cockpit challenge:

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Nothing finer than a spot of rock polishing in a sailplane! Noticed the rectangular windows on the starboard nose, and thought Lockheed Hudson?
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Old 23rd Dec 2019, 03:38
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Though our mountains are somewhat less ambitious...

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Old 23rd Dec 2019, 04:41
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asw28-866 is correct. An RAAF Lockheed Hudson. Your mountains are beautiful non-the-less. You have control.

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Old 23rd Dec 2019, 05:04
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Gosh, thank you. Have not been successful at the challenge for years. Easy one for a hot smoky Monday, fastest I've been at work!

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Old 23rd Dec 2019, 05:10
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And at the time, the highest I had been at work...

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Old 23rd Dec 2019, 09:11
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The whole cockpit...
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Old 23rd Dec 2019, 12:20
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Cessna Citation?
Drop down window on the left.
No idea which model.
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Old 23rd Dec 2019, 21:35
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dixi188 is closing in, Cessna Citation line is correct. Spanning almost 50 years of production, and over 20 model derivatives, I suggest perhaps a little more refinement required before medals are awarded?

Here is what our cockpit looks like from the back...
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Yes KSKG I suspect you are right, C560 Ultra it is, you have control.
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