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Old 13th Mar 2015, 21:36
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Hi Kitbag.

The guy who designed and built the original aircraft was Italian. Wiki says he designed and built Italy's first aircraft. He emigrated to the USA in 1911 and this was his first aircraft built there. Famous thereafter for cabin monoplanes one of his aircraft was Lindbergh's first choice for the transatlantic crossing until forced to turn to Ryan.

The net shows this 1911 replica now hanging in a museum. Just the gentleman's surname will suffice...
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Old 13th Mar 2015, 23:27
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That's the man Jenkins!

Bellanca 1911 Replica (Dan Shumaker)

1911 = 1pOhwM; 30hp Anzani Y. POP: 1. Skeletal wooden fuselage with a cockpit, more of a perch, within the framework. Giuseppe Bellanca's first plane, in which he taught himself to fly and later used for flight training. Bellanca built and sold a number of other designs into the 1920s, but even basic details are sorely lacking and many are substantiated only by uncaptioned photographs.
Over to you...
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Old 15th Mar 2015, 01:55
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Cool Should go quickly!!

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Old 15th Mar 2015, 04:58
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op,

Do the rudder pedals "provide" the answer?

OH if correct.
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Old 15th Mar 2015, 05:57
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Yes, the rudder pedals make that a Fairchild C123 Provider?
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Old 15th Mar 2015, 06:35
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Oops !

Did not spot that!!OK looks like India two four its yours!!
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Old 15th Mar 2015, 16:17
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op,

An easy mistake.

Open house.
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Old 16th Mar 2015, 11:09
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Infamous Aircraft

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A little surprise you have the temerity to put the 123 Provider on these boards when one considers it was the principal aircraft used in the chemical spraying of women and children during the Agent Orange campaign.

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Old 16th Mar 2015, 13:41
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What cockpit

Thank you for pointing this out ,I did not know it (123)it was used for this purpose as I am sure thousands of other ppruners also are not aware.But now I know thanks to you I shall not have the problem of using it any further.Is it OK if I put on a B-52 or perhaps a F-4 phantom ?
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Old 16th Mar 2015, 13:49
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Or a silverplate B29 😎
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Ocean Person,

Do grow up! Whether or not old pax knew about the use of C-123s on Ranch Hand missions is irrelevant. I certainly knew about it, but that's not going to stop me participating in a harmless game.

As op and Kitbag have pointed out, perhaps we should not post B-52s, F-4s and Silverplate B-29s? Or normal B-29s, B-17s and Lancasters?

I'm sure that none of the posters on here feel they are glorifying the history of a particular aircraft by posting it on this thread.

If you feel that I am being flippant in my response, please note that I have a friend in Vietnam whose has lifelong medical problems, because her father was exposed to Agent Orange.

Do us all a favour and take your moralizing elsewhere.
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Old 16th Mar 2015, 19:26
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Here's a quickie, civil but in deference to Ocean Persons sensibilities arguably had a hand in causing the death of many more people than any of the ac listed above.

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Old 16th Mar 2015, 22:56
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The instruments look like they might be European. I'm intrigued to know how a civil aircraft could be so lethal.
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Old 16th Mar 2015, 23:13
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I'm guessing it might have been used to transport someone who made some significant decisions at some stage. Pretty tenuous. Let's hope that tenuous things don't spoil this thread.
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Old 16th Mar 2015, 23:18
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I42 you may be correct as far as the instruments go, but the airframe is not European.

TheIC your guess is correct, this type was in the background.
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Old 17th Mar 2015, 01:01
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I'm guessing it might have been used to transport someone who made some significant decisions at some stage
Ahhhh.....The Lockheed L-14 Super Electra maybe?


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Old 17th Mar 2015, 07:28
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India Four Two:
Considering the subject and what it pertains to I think your choice of the word moralizing is somewhat hypocritical.

Kitbag:
I sincerely trust you know the difference between innocent and deliberate?

O.P.
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Old 17th Mar 2015, 08:54
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Correct Noyade. With regard to I42s comment I'm not sure whether the instruments were changed on purpose, does anyone have any idea?
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Old 17th Mar 2015, 13:18
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Thanks Kitbag. Good clues and I suspect TheiC also knew the answer. Dunno about the flight instruments.

I don't have an interior shot but I thought this looked interesting - plenty of clues...

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Old 17th Mar 2015, 19:40
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At first look I was convinced that the guys all looked Italian, but a childhood memory suggests that the guy with the eye patch is Wiley Post.
A guess then at a Lockheed Orion?
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