What Cockpit?
You shouldn't have gone to bed, dook! My first guess was the Boulton Paul Balliol, but the panel didn't match, so I looked into other 1940s-1950s side-by-side advanced trainers.
Instead of an Oxford College, I found a Greek Goddess - the Avro Athena!
Instead of an Oxford College, I found a Greek Goddess - the Avro Athena!
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I'm also sorry for the delay, but it's due to me being a gentleman of leisure these days and deciding to stay in bed this morning!
The view out of the Athena cockpit must have been appalling with those gun sights in the way.
Here's a cockpit that I actually had lined up for once!
The view out of the Athena cockpit must have been appalling with those gun sights in the way.
Here's a cockpit that I actually had lined up for once!
US piston. Not designed as a trainer, but I'm sure it has taken on that role. More clues later, if required.
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Well, those control wheels are very Ryan, but it does look like a twin, so could it be a Twin Navion?
I see that Bear is on the same track, dunno if his designation is a twin though!
I see that Bear is on the same track, dunno if his designation is a twin though!
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Sorry guys. I’ve been out enjoying the +16° weather.
Yes, the Twin Navion. A fascinating development history. It all started with a Navion owner who wanted to buy a twin. His AME said why don’t we put two engines in yours? Not difficult and it’s only a minor mod. A Form 337 will do!
Making the first Twin Navion
I saw our local one at a fly-in breakfast recently, which is what prompted me to look for a cockpit photo:
Scottie’s Toy has an interesting history:
C-FNHN, The History of 'Scottie's Toy'
Well spotted SincoTC, you have control.
Yes, the Twin Navion. A fascinating development history. It all started with a Navion owner who wanted to buy a twin. His AME said why don’t we put two engines in yours? Not difficult and it’s only a minor mod. A Form 337 will do!
Making the first Twin Navion
I saw our local one at a fly-in breakfast recently, which is what prompted me to look for a cockpit photo:
Scottie’s Toy has an interesting history:
C-FNHN, The History of 'Scottie's Toy'
Well spotted SincoTC, you have control.
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Thanks I-42, good challenge 
I spent quite a while searching for a photo showing that overhead panel after I decided it must be Navion of sorts due to those characteristic control wheels, plus that glimpse of a nacelle out of the window confirmed it 's twin! I did find a couple but they all had slightly different layout on OH panel and modern looking control wheels, but as it seemed they were all mods anyway, there were bound to be variations, so I decided to take a punt
Here's the next one!
Now I'm off to bed too!
I spent quite a while searching for a photo showing that overhead panel after I decided it must be Navion of sorts due to those characteristic control wheels, plus that glimpse of a nacelle out of the window confirmed it 's twin! I did find a couple but they all had slightly different layout on OH panel and modern looking control wheels, but as it seemed they were all mods anyway, there were bound to be variations, so I decided to take a punt
Here's the next one!
Now I'm off to bed too!
Last edited by SincoTC; 7th Oct 2019 at 07:25. Reason: Corrected typos and read the First Twin Navion link over breakfast. Very interesting it was too!!
Leather straps on the rudder pedals. Germany or points further east?