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Old 27th Jan 2021, 11:02
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HPT 32 Deepack. OH if correct.
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Old 27th Jan 2021, 11:10
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Originally Posted by UV
HPT 32 Deepack. OH if correct.
UV has it with the HPT-32 Deepack

Open House called
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Old 27th Jan 2021, 15:30
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To keep things moving along:



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Old 27th Jan 2021, 18:40
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I can see the reg...!
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Old 27th Jan 2021, 19:47
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Oops! ... Should be fixed now
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Old 29th Jan 2021, 14:00
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Can I just point at post #1837?
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Old 30th Jan 2021, 15:19
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My apologies! I hadn't noticed the previous one.

Jhieminga has it.

Piaggio Royal Gull it is.
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Old 30th Jan 2021, 16:08
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Thanks, let's have an Open House.
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Old 30th Jan 2021, 19:47
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Try this one.



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Old 31st Jan 2021, 15:05
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Looks like a "War Power switch on the starboard side??
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Old 1st Feb 2021, 14:55
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It's Soviet/Soviet bloc and westernised. 1970's era.
The gear/flaps/(weapons?) silouhette indicator below the weapons selector is deffo Russian seen in various types, inc Su25 Frogfoot which this cockpit closely resembles . Reflector sight is a '60s era Russian one. I think the bang-seat is western too.
The 3 panels shape and layout is very Russian, the wanderlight isn't NATO, RCDI is in metres.
It appears to be a twin jet with a multiple weapons selector, so looks like ground attack.

As to what it actually is - stumped. For now.

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Old 1st Feb 2021, 20:23
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Excellent sleuthing, meleagertoo.

Soviet bloc and westernised. 1970s. MB Mk10L seat. Twin jet.

A 1970s design but with a long and protracted development. Only a few were built.


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Old 2nd Feb 2021, 20:54
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The closest I can get is Nanchang A5 but none of the very few photos I can find are a really convincing match. The canopy bow is in the right place but nowhere near beefy enough nor the right shape - in fact it is so insubstantial I hardly see it being a part of a jet combat aircraft at all so I reckon this is a mockup and not the real thing.
The red handle and wanderlight next to it are in the right place.
I'd put money on it being a Mig 19 derivative though -

Not entirely confident with the call but by a process of elinination I'm saying the A-5IV/A-5M probably a mockup as exported to Pakistan with Rockwell-Collins avionics and instrumentation and a Mk10 seat.

Edit. Mig 21 derivatives are too big for this - it's not one of those.

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Old 2nd Feb 2021, 21:06
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IAR-93 Vultur does fit the brief, 1970s, Sovbloc, probably Westernised, not that many built.... but the cockpit doesn't match. Back to square one...
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Old 2nd Feb 2021, 23:06
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Could be a IAR-99 variant.
Probably The Jaffe Aircraft Corporation modified one?
Could not locate a photo of that so a blunt stab in the dark.
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Old 2nd Feb 2021, 23:43
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IAR 99 is single engined so not that one.

I also discover that PODW on the red handle is Polish for "Double" which makes my Nanchang look much less likely.

I thnk I've looked at every Eastern European aircraft there is and some came close but no way can I match all the detials.

I've even searched Martin Baker's list of Mk 10 installations and can't see a match either.

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OK,I now think it's an E European product. The vertical red handle is identical to that on and Aero 159 and the riveted cockpit sides are very distinctive, as is the screen defogging tube.
Soko J22 and IAR 93 are the closest I can get so far.They match most of the criteria - twin, long in development, Mk10, canopy shape and position fits, armoured front screen fits, role fits but there are so few pics on the net its impossible to choose which, or which model and nothing like the instrument fit is to be found. I'm not happy about the 3 panel layout though which doesn't match at all.

d'uh oh!
How did I miss that? It's a PZL I-22 Iryda. Shoulda stuck to the Polish language clue but despite several google searches for PZL I 22 cockpit image I failed to spot any but older versions, it wasn't until I added Iryda that this modern one came up. Nice looking little toy, I'd like a go in one of those!
Thanks to Martin Baker's list!

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Old 3rd Feb 2021, 05:59
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Well done! The PZL I-22 Iryda it is. Development began in 1976, first flew in 1985, 17 built, retired in 1996. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_I-22_Iryda




It was planned to be the replacement of the PZL TS-11 Iskara but ran into lots of cost/performance issues and had a fatal accident. You know things are not going well when the manufacturer sues the Ministry of Defence!

I failed to spot any but older versions
I noticed that too, when I was looking for images. The older ones are so different that I thought they might be mislabelled!

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Old 4th Feb 2021, 20:41
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...17 built...
I wonder what the unit cost was?
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Old 5th Feb 2021, 20:43
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Probably less than the unit cost of an F-35!
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Old 9th Feb 2021, 22:32
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Letís post this one.
The owner of this particular aircraft persevered.
or was it progres-severe?


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