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Old 29th Aug 2014, 17:27
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You might be thinking of Aviation News which Alan Hall started around 1971 as a fortnightly in, as you say, a b&w newspaper style.
Richard Riding launched Aeroplane Monthly in April 1973 as an offshoot from Flight magazine (IPC then owned both titles...and the archives of both Flight and Aeroplane weeklies))
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I suspect you were thinking of the old weekly 'The Aeroplane', which ceased publication in the late-1960s.
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Aeroplane had become 'Aeroplane and Commercial Aviation News' from the late Fifties till it folded in 1969
THE AEROPLANE and COMMERCIAL AVIATION NEWS, 7 Volumes/ Jahrgänge: 109 (1965) - 116 (1968). Without Volume 115 (1968) and 116 (1968) is incomplete!, by James, Thurstan [edit.]:: London : Temple Press, 1965 - 1968. Bibliothekseinband - Antiq. Bookfarm/

I think it was in magazine rather than newspaper format.

And there's an October AM in the shops now alongside the September plus freebie package
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Haraka, the reason Aeroplane puts "Autumn" etc on the issue cover is that it extends the on-sale period beyond the normal four weeks or so. It's just a magazine-industry device to keep some issues on the newsagents' shelves for longer, and thereby hope to increase sales.
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Many thanks indeed for that nebpet, it has cleared up a puzzle for me.
I was aware of the trick of apparently bringing an issue out a month in advance ,(long now copied by Aeroplane). I seemed that this move indicated a possible precursor to it becoming a quarterly , especially since AM has played down the "monthly " part of its title.
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Hi Haraka, yes, when the new owners brought out their first "Summer" issue of Aeroplane even some former members of staff thought it had gone quarterly! And the publication-a-month-before-coverdate used to drive me nuts — it was a steady progress of competitive leapfrogging between Aeroplane and Flypast to beat each other on to the newsstands by a day or two, and it went on for decades. During my tenure we never actually got to the stage of routinely bringing an issue out two months before coverdate, e.g. November issue coming out in September — I was always fiercely against that — but it has since become the norm. I always used to suggest, to whichever publishing director happened to be passing through at the time, that we should all take a month off (on full pay, of course!), and then on-sale date would be back in sync with the calendar. But they would always just look at me oddly.
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Belated thanks for the information on Twenty First Profile (page two).

Got another one for ya. Wingspan. Seemed like a good magazine at the time. Still around or another quick death?



And speaking of seasonal publications, I remember some American magazines in the past even had mid-seasons...

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There was a reincarnation of Wingspan.I have a copy for Sep/Oct 2000.
Editor was Francois Prins and publisher Simon Beale.
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Back in the mid to late sixties I used to buy what looked like a newspaper with about twelve pages in black&white which I think was called "Aeroplane monthly"?It was very informative ,was it the forerunner of the"Aeroplane" magazine?
I think you might be referring to "Aviation News" which was in newspaper format, well illustrated in B&W and had lots of GA drawings which were great for modellers.
I had a few of the early ones then lost contact. I think it went on for a considerable time : even now the drawings turn up from time to time on the net.
Again it was, in my opinion, a good effort.
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Aeroplane Monthly (plus all of Kelsey's aviation titles) have now been sold to Key Publishing. I don't know what this will mean for the future of any of the titles as yet.
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That will be interesting.
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I don't think it will be a great surprise to see AM and Flypast merge, but even this I fear will be just delaying the inevitable.
Not a pleasant time for the staff in any event.
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As I understand things, there are no plans to combine FP and AM, in fact Key say that they plan to improve AM. I guess it will be a case of waiting to see how things develop.
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It will indeed be interesting to see how things develop. It's always worth remembering a couple of things in this sort of situation:
1. Looked at from the cynical perspective, publishers say what it suits them to say, not necessarily what is actually going to happen;
2. Looked at from the uncynical perspective, circumstances change and the original plan may have to be changed accordingly.
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Does anyone else remember the late, lamented Aircraft Illustrated/Aircraft/Classic Aircraft magazine? How long did that last once Key acquired it?
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Key Publishing announced its acquisition of Classic Aircraft (and the other Ian Allan transport mags) in March 2012, and the closure was announced in about late Oct/early Nov 2012, as I recall.
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Unhappy Perhaps Not Surprising.

Oh dear. Well, as related earlier in this thread, both of these magazines have been on a converging course for some time. I would posit that in trying to be 'all things to all men' ( & women.) they have both, in many ways, left behind their original readerships. FP was always the more populist publication. AM has very much lost it's way. Style over substance incarnate. If they merge, it'll be a tragedy that ironically mirrors, in a small way, what has happened to British aviation generally since the war.
I'd have loved to have seen AM return to it's roots and become more 'hardcore' again.
I simply cannot envisage KP keeping two now effectively identical monthly glossy mags going. Whilst AM is not really the same mag as the pre-war weekly, it nonethless has genuine heritage right back to the birth of aviation. To see it subsumed will be a tragedy. FP is 'just' a frothy glossy, like a bus, there'll be another one along in a minute. I can't imagine commercial publishing houses give a toss about any of this, they are just concerned with making a buck and neutralising competition, even if that means a short-term loss.
That's the beauty of the Air Britain organisation, it's basically run by enthusiasts for enthusiasts. I wonder how much AM was sold for.....?
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Would be very interesting to know how much AM changed hands for. In the meantime, we try to keep the spirit of the original AM, as created by Richard T. Riding in 1973, alive within The Aviation Historian. And he writes for us!
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If they don't merge them, it will be interesting to see whether they still have a competition to see which mag can have the most photos of a Spitfire or a Hurricane on the cover over a year; or, indeed the most articles about these airplanes on the inside....God forbid!
And what of Jets...bravely different and not featuring RAF WW2 airplanes in profusion. Will it survive in its current form? I pray so, but I fear not.
Long live The Aviation Historian!
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It's the publishers who insist on the Spitfire covers, Doug, not the editors. On Aeroplane in the IPC days we could reckon on selling an extra 2,000 copies in the UK newstrade if we had a Spitfire on the cover. This naturally meant that the publisher wanted a Spifire on every cover, and equally naturally meant that we editorial bods had to mount a spirited defence! Actually towards the end I used to have to provide a list of the next 12 planned covers, so I would always include a "sacrificial lamb" or two among them in order to draw focus from interesting cover subjects that I wanted to protect. Ridiculous, really. But re The Aviation Historian, amen to that! (Although I may be biased!)
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