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Old 27th Jun 2016, 15:25
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Originally Posted by The AvgasDinosaur View Post
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Can some one please advise of the stand numbers opposite the terminal building in the early 1970's where the Britannias used to frequent notably the Eurafric one on the Irish register and the RedCoat ones.
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I would agree with LTNman on this one. 10-15 are the stands that I have recorded in my anorak log from 1976 onwards. What became 15L was known then as 15. Further to this, the area referred to as "The Pond" i.e. what has been Signatures stand 16 for several years until recently, was known as 16, 17 and I believe 18 at the east end. I stand to be corrected, of course.
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Old 27th Jun 2016, 17:03
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10, outside Monarch's hangar, to 15 outside Britannia's. 15L was added later.
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Old 27th Jun 2016, 17:11
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The first Jet Provost, a T.1 c/n PAC/84/001 XD674. Not sure when the pic was taken but it first flew 25.1.54. The early JPs used piston Provosts u/c legs.

This aircraft made a wheels up landing on the grass at Luton 18.7.54 but it flew again the same day! It had a varied history and the airframe is now engineless at Cosford.

Someone on another forum has identified the chap in uniform as the Chief Airport Fire Officer, Vic Cable. In the days when test pilots wore ties!

Credit: BAE Systems Heritage - Hunting Percival Archive.

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Old 27th Jun 2016, 17:53
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I thought Stand 18 was always part of the South stands but I am happy to be corrected by our retired atdcos. Of course a number of executive aircraft were parked on the light aircraft stand which ran parallel to McAlpine's hangar.
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Old 27th Jun 2016, 18:12
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Napier also made engines for the Wessex 1 and 3,so it may have had one inside the hangar possibly.
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Old 27th Jun 2016, 18:34
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You know that this is Hunting Percival's chief test pilot, R. G. 'Dick' Wheldon following the first flight of prototype Jet Provost T Mk.1, XD674, at Luton on 26 June 1954?
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Old 27th Jun 2016, 18:44
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Thanks, Vampiredave, I did wonder. I have from elsewhere it was June but the Air Britain books states January. Certainly doesn't look like January!
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Old 27th Jun 2016, 19:19
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Coverage of the JP's maiden flight in the 2nd July 1954 issue of Flight:

https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarch...0-%201939.html
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Old 28th Jun 2016, 05:32
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I thought Stand 18 was always part of the South stands but I am happy to be corrected
The south stands start from 20. Stand 18 has only just been marked up again together with stand 19 on the Pond in readiness for when the stands pass back to the airport from Signature.
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Old 28th Jun 2016, 06:20
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Ref. the J.P.1's Provost undercarriage legs. It was a noticeable feature that when taxying over the grass, the legs had a habit of "walking " alternatively. I do remember seeing about 6 early JP 1's up in line astern formation over Luton for a photo sortie c. 1956.
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Old 28th Jun 2016, 21:05
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Two pics of XD674, the first Jet Provost T.1, following its wheels up landing on the grass at Luton 18.7.54. It apparently flew again the same day!

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Old 29th Jun 2016, 16:50
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Isn't alternative walking what Monty Python were famous for?
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Old 5th Jul 2016, 12:06
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I always thought stands 16 and 17 were known as the "ponda rosa" in the 70s- wide open spaces?
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Old 5th Jul 2016, 15:53
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Yes, a term I have steadfastly refused to use. It got shortened to 'the pond'.

It comes from a TV series 'Bonanza' by NBC that ran from 1959 to 1973 of the Cartwright family living on a fictional Ponderosa Ranch.
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Old 5th Jul 2016, 22:53
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But Vintage ATCO do you know how the term originated? I have no idea but it slipped into common usage.

Just looked at that KLM picture again. When was that large area of what looks like grass in the apron removed- is it an optical illusion?

Some ex KLM DC7Cs returned of course in Sudflug guise in 1967 - I still struggle in vain to get a schedule of those flights. Saw one depart from Chiltern Green when I had told my Dad I was going just round the corner from Welwyn- the deceit continued when I made the crash gate in 1968 for about another year. When I told him as a 14 year old he said "better than messing about with girls I suppose"!

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Old 6th Jul 2016, 06:41
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My understanding is a Britannia engineer christened the area shortly after it opened based on the Ponderosa Ranch from the TV series Bonanza.

If you are asking about the etymology of the word, then no.

My brain hurts.

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Old 6th Jul 2016, 07:37
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Just looked at that KLM picture again. When was that large area of what looks like grass in the apron removed- is it an optical illusion?
This photo was posted by Buster the Bear sometime ago. If someone can date this photo then here is the answer. A close examination of the photo will show the new curved concrete that replaced the curved grass in front of the hangar, which is marked off with workman's oil lamps. Also what looks like the contraption that men would sit on while smoothing the concrete can be seen in front of the barrel.

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Old 7th Jul 2016, 13:05
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'BO was sold to Britannia Airways on 16th March 1970. The registration was cancelled as permanently withdrawn from use on 25th January 1971 and she was broken up at Luton in May of that year, so that narrows it down a bit...

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Old 7th Jul 2016, 14:44
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I think you'll find the 1970 date refers to when Britannia purchased G-ANBO.

It was operated under a lease from Jan 1965......
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 14:50
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Originally Posted by boeing eng
It was operated under a lease from Jan 1965......
Narrows it a bit wider then!
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