Aircrew Training in Rhodesia
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28 E.F.T.S Mt Hampden
Hello Jerico,
I am sorry to hear your father has died.
Thank you very much for posting the serial nos. of the Cornells he flew at No.28 EFTS. and I have added them to my notes and will incorporate them into my RATG Cornell database.
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I am sorry to hear your father has died.
Thank you very much for posting the serial nos. of the Cornells he flew at No.28 EFTS. and I have added them to my notes and will incorporate them into my RATG Cornell database.
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Hi M-62A3
In case you are interested the Harvards at Cranbourne were a mixture of RAF Registrations:
AJ664
AJ709
AJ666
AJ746
AJ719
AJ721
AJ707
AJ620
EZ308
EX659
AJ627
EX362 or 302 not sure which
AJ750
Plus several showing the following Registrations:
7095; 7122; 7125;5858; 5945; 7116; 5952; 5960; 5900; 5917 & 7125. Any ideas what these might indicate?
In case you are interested the Harvards at Cranbourne were a mixture of RAF Registrations:
AJ664
AJ709
AJ666
AJ746
AJ719
AJ721
AJ707
AJ620
EZ308
EX659
AJ627
EX362 or 302 not sure which
AJ750
Plus several showing the following Registrations:
7095; 7122; 7125;5858; 5945; 7116; 5952; 5960; 5900; 5917 & 7125. Any ideas what these might indicate?
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Cranborne Harvards
7095; 7122; 7125;5858; 5945; 7116; 5952; 5960; 5900; 5917 & 7125. Any ideas what these might indicate?
Hi again Jerico,
Thank you for the Harvard serials.
The above are all Harvard Mk.Is with single letter serial prefixes.
N7095; N7122; N7125; P5858; P5945; N7116; P5952; P5960; P5900; P5917; N7125.
Those with the 'N' prefix and P5858 were delivered first to the UK in 1939, serving at such as No.6 S.F.T.S., Little Rissington before being shipped to Rhodesia in 1940 & '41. The remainder were delivered directly to Rhodesia in 1940.
The Mk.Is had a curved trailing edge to the rudder and most of the RATG survivors were struck off and scrapped in November 1945.
Those with the 'AJ' prefix are Mk.II and those with 'EX' prefix are Mk.IIa. Both models have a more triangular rudder. Most of the Mk.IIs were also struck off in 1945 whereas many of the surviving Mk.IIa's were used post war.
EX302 is currently registered in the UK as G-BICE.
Cheers, M-62A3
Hi again Jerico,
Thank you for the Harvard serials.
The above are all Harvard Mk.Is with single letter serial prefixes.
N7095; N7122; N7125; P5858; P5945; N7116; P5952; P5960; P5900; P5917; N7125.
Those with the 'N' prefix and P5858 were delivered first to the UK in 1939, serving at such as No.6 S.F.T.S., Little Rissington before being shipped to Rhodesia in 1940 & '41. The remainder were delivered directly to Rhodesia in 1940.
The Mk.Is had a curved trailing edge to the rudder and most of the RATG survivors were struck off and scrapped in November 1945.
Those with the 'AJ' prefix are Mk.II and those with 'EX' prefix are Mk.IIa. Both models have a more triangular rudder. Most of the Mk.IIs were also struck off in 1945 whereas many of the surviving Mk.IIa's were used post war.
EX302 is currently registered in the UK as G-BICE.
Cheers, M-62A3
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Hi, The father of a friend of mine flew a lancaster on one engine (the other three engines feathered) on a flypast at the Kumalo Air display, Bulawayo, on August 2nd 1947. I was wondering if anybody else has any knowledge of this interesting feat!! I have a photograph of the aircraft in flight with three engines feathered on its flypast. Hand written on the back of the photo is: 'Flying on one at 'Kumalo' Air Display 'Bulawayo' Aug 2nd 1947. Aerodrome Height 4600 FEET'
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Hi all,
"Norton has been found".
See here http://www.saamuseum.co.za/images/st...p_web_page.htm
cheers,
Jaws
"Norton has been found".
See here http://www.saamuseum.co.za/images/st...p_web_page.htm
cheers,
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RAF aircrew training in Rhodesia
My father trained as a pilot in 1944/45 in Rhodesia. I have a lot of photograhs which may be of interest to others. I would also like to be able to put some detail into captions. Dad never really spoke of those times and the photos have come to light because I have digitised the negatives.
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John N, can you contact me via email: maxw467"AT"gmail.com, replacing the "AT" with @ of course! Many thanks - if you don't receive an immediate reply it's probably because I'm away from home for a fortnight and I'm not sure what the internet coverage will be where I'm going in S America.
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Training in Rhodesia
I am wading through 2 boxes of photos & ephemera relating to the career of Sqn. Ldr. E. G. Waddingham, who trained at Thornhill in 1944 & passed 43a course, on the 21/12/1944. He remained in the RAF as a pilot until the mandatory retirement age of 55, having flown a total of 7,880 Hrs, his last flight being on the 09/04/1976.
I will try & attach a few things that stood out, including the wings party list, which would appear to be the list of pilots who graduated from the course & a page from his first of 4 log books.
If anyone has photos of Thornhill that year, it would help to determine which of his photos were from there?
Will try & post some more in the future, including a long list of pilots handbooks on various aircraft, a silk map of Palestine etc etc.
I will try & attach a few things that stood out, including the wings party list, which would appear to be the list of pilots who graduated from the course & a page from his first of 4 log books.
If anyone has photos of Thornhill that year, it would help to determine which of his photos were from there?
Will try & post some more in the future, including a long list of pilots handbooks on various aircraft, a silk map of Palestine etc etc.
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Yes, a "legend in his own lunchbox", or more to the point, in the mess bar!!!!
Trying to get to grips with all the boxes of RAF ephemera that i inherited when he passed away & now that i have retired & have a bit more time.
After leaving Lyneham, Ed & June had 12 years on a boat, getting as far as Sydney. They both then settled in Ft. Lauderdale, where he bought a twin prop, did private flights to the Bahamas & even flew as Captain for the US Coastguard into his late 60`s.
Interesting items include being fired upon over Palestine flying in spitfire formation by American pilot flying for the emerging Israeli Air Force!!!
Also loads about Operation "Deep Freeze", where he was flying out of NZ to resupply & landing Hercules in Antarctica on wheels rather than the "yanks", who apparently always used skis?!!
Did you "Nav" with Ed - if so, it must have been towards the end of his RAF career?
All the best,
Philip Waddingham
Trying to get to grips with all the boxes of RAF ephemera that i inherited when he passed away & now that i have retired & have a bit more time.
After leaving Lyneham, Ed & June had 12 years on a boat, getting as far as Sydney. They both then settled in Ft. Lauderdale, where he bought a twin prop, did private flights to the Bahamas & even flew as Captain for the US Coastguard into his late 60`s.
Interesting items include being fired upon over Palestine flying in spitfire formation by American pilot flying for the emerging Israeli Air Force!!!
Also loads about Operation "Deep Freeze", where he was flying out of NZ to resupply & landing Hercules in Antarctica on wheels rather than the "yanks", who apparently always used skis?!!
Did you "Nav" with Ed - if so, it must have been towards the end of his RAF career?
All the best,
Philip Waddingham
Just dug my log book out - my first flight with Ed was:-
1970, Feb 19-21 Gyro trainer to Thule, Goose bay and Ottawa - then no again until:-
23/7/70 Drop at Watchfield
30/8/70 Fairford- Luqa- Akrotiri
10/9/70 Circuits
15/12/70 to 19/12/70 To Jo'burg via Lajes,Ascension, return via Accra and Lajes
the other captain was Chugalug2 who posts on PPRuNe
25/1/71 Circuits
16/2/71 to 24/2/71 Lyneham to Changi we were screening a new captain and nav'.
A few odd flights then we were both on the infamous Pisa detachment in Nov' '71 when a Herc we were following crashed into the sea. No3 in the formation crashed and Ed was in No4, I being in No5.
We led a formation together a week later.
Several odd flights together until we were the lead of 2 Hercs at the '72 Farnborough Air Show.
A few more flights and then Ed was the skipper on my last flight in the RAF in September '73 to Wildenrath and return twice.
He was certainly on 30 Sqn until then.
1970, Feb 19-21 Gyro trainer to Thule, Goose bay and Ottawa - then no again until:-
23/7/70 Drop at Watchfield
30/8/70 Fairford- Luqa- Akrotiri
10/9/70 Circuits
15/12/70 to 19/12/70 To Jo'burg via Lajes,Ascension, return via Accra and Lajes
the other captain was Chugalug2 who posts on PPRuNe
25/1/71 Circuits
16/2/71 to 24/2/71 Lyneham to Changi we were screening a new captain and nav'.
A few odd flights then we were both on the infamous Pisa detachment in Nov' '71 when a Herc we were following crashed into the sea. No3 in the formation crashed and Ed was in No4, I being in No5.
We led a formation together a week later.
Several odd flights together until we were the lead of 2 Hercs at the '72 Farnborough Air Show.
A few more flights and then Ed was the skipper on my last flight in the RAF in September '73 to Wildenrath and return twice.
He was certainly on 30 Sqn until then.
One of the things about my log book that during the airdrop courses I always logged the student captain as 'pilot'. So the first time Ed appears it is on Dec 4 1974 when the airdrop training empire was then called TSTS (it went through several names !) We flew in XV 210 to Tengah and back via the usual places.
I do recall him enthralling us all with tales of flying the Tempest in Egypt and especially of the day one of their a/c was shot down.
I do recall him enthralling us all with tales of flying the Tempest in Egypt and especially of the day one of their a/c was shot down.
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Off topic but might interest a few here?
While looking through Ed`s accumulation, i found a silk escape map of Palestine & the Middle East & his log book entry was bookmarked with a newspaper report, so have put this up on E bay, to help fund his last grandchild's World Challenge to India, along with his RAF pins etc:
(add http in front) ://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202231786975?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l 2649
There is a long article on the web RAFVIAF, though they have Ed as Waddington, rather than Waddingham (perhaps they knew his propensity for bar games?),
which might also be of interest to some here?
add http in front) ://www.spyflight.co.uk/iafvraf.htm
While looking through Ed`s accumulation, i found a silk escape map of Palestine & the Middle East & his log book entry was bookmarked with a newspaper report, so have put this up on E bay, to help fund his last grandchild's World Challenge to India, along with his RAF pins etc:
(add http in front) ://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202231786975?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l 2649
There is a long article on the web RAFVIAF, though they have Ed as Waddington, rather than Waddingham (perhaps they knew his propensity for bar games?),
which might also be of interest to some here?
add http in front) ://www.spyflight.co.uk/iafvraf.htm
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Still going through Ed`s papers & this might interest 30 Sqn. Lyneham `lads` (have offered scan to the museum, if they are interested at Lyneham):
RAF Operation Deep Freeze 30 Sqn. Photos & Memorabilia
In November 1972, RAF Hercules C130 aircraft from Lyneham, Wiltshire, based out of Christchurch New Zealand to resupply the Antarctic research stations from McMudo station. They astonished the Americans by landing with wheels rather than skis!!! The resupply was from the 26th November 72 to the 8th of December & each return flight was about 14 hrs flying time.
This collection of 9 photographs, taken by the official USN photographers PHC Ralph Payne/Richard Beaudet on the 26/11/1972 (11-26-72 for the Colonials), shows LCDR Ralph Lewis greeting the RAF pilot, Sqn. Ldr. E.G. Waddingham & various shots of Hercules & base camp.
RAF Operation Deep Freeze 30 Sqn. Photos & Memorabilia
In November 1972, RAF Hercules C130 aircraft from Lyneham, Wiltshire, based out of Christchurch New Zealand to resupply the Antarctic research stations from McMudo station. They astonished the Americans by landing with wheels rather than skis!!! The resupply was from the 26th November 72 to the 8th of December & each return flight was about 14 hrs flying time.
This collection of 9 photographs, taken by the official USN photographers PHC Ralph Payne/Richard Beaudet on the 26/11/1972 (11-26-72 for the Colonials), shows LCDR Ralph Lewis greeting the RAF pilot, Sqn. Ldr. E.G. Waddingham & various shots of Hercules & base camp.
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22 sfcs thornhill christmas dinner 1944
Still going through mountains of papers & found this Sgts. Mess Christmas dinner menu from 1944!! There seems to be no idea of rationing out in Rhodesia at that time & would be the envy of anyone still stationed back in `Blighty`!!!!!!!
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Hi
My father trained at Thornhill in 1952/53 and would love to know if there are any others still around who were there too - I sat with him last weekend and went through some of his photos and his log book and it was fascinating to hear and see.
I’d intended to PM a couple of people on here, but I don’t think I’ve been a member long enough - sorry
Michael
My father trained at Thornhill in 1952/53 and would love to know if there are any others still around who were there too - I sat with him last weekend and went through some of his photos and his log book and it was fascinating to hear and see.
I’d intended to PM a couple of people on here, but I don’t think I’ve been a member long enough - sorry
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During a lot of WWII Southern Africa had a surplus of food, because the shipping wasn't available to export it.
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Well, politics & emancipation resolved that one in Rhodesia unfortunately!!!!!!!!!!
