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Here is a read only link to the Aerodrome Database - WhichAerodrome.xlsx. Up to date as of 1/5/2019. Catching up slowly - up to May 2019 now (Mar 2020).

Here are some "rules" for Which Aerodrome. These are based upon the original suggestions from the very first thread, and have a few additions. Also please be patient as when you are active others may be asleep.
  • A historic picture of an aerodrome will be posted. Newer pictures are allowed but the theme here is to compare/contrast old with new as well as identifying aerodromes which no longer exist.
  • The person who correctly identifies it will be declared the 'winner' by the original poster.
  • That winner shall either post another challenge or declare the floor open. Anyone may then post the next challenge.
  • If the winner of the challenge does not respond to the notification of their success within 48 hours, an Open house can be declared when there is consensus between multiple other posters which are on line.
  • When the poster of a challenge does not respond within 48 hours of a posted answer, this poster can be declared winner if the answer is considered correct in a consensus of multiple other posters.
  • If Open House is declared, regular posters should not jump in immediately, but time should be given for those who are not great at naming the correct location as they may have some good images.
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  • When confirming the correct location, the location and winner should be stated to negate any deletion of posts.
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Old 8th Jan 2017, 21:07
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Good detective work there, Sherlock. I had wondered about editing out the registration!

Pitt Meadows, just east of Vancouver:


I was surprised to discover that according to ForeFlight, the price of AvGas is cheaper than that posted in my photo, at $1.60 per litre. Of course you have to add 5% GST (VAT) and 7% PST, making the price $1.76 (~£1.09). Cheap by UK standards?

To be strictly honest, I've never set foot on the airfield. I was doing touch-and-goes on the Fraser River.

When the active runway is the EW one, parallel to the river, floatplanes fly circuits south of the river and landplanes fly north of the river. Things get a bit more interesting when the NS runway is active!

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Would the price not be per US Gal? Would make the price per liter even less.
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Originally Posted by nvubu
Kenley it is. I did think that the 56 Squadron markings would lead you on a wild goose chase. As chevvron pointed out Angels One-Five was on the telly yesterday. It was really good to see Kenley active, as I lived 1/4 mile away for 25 years and could only imagine what it was like. My house was just behind the trees on the left towards the top of the picture.

I was wondering about the twin-engined aircraft. Only picked them up from the screenshot. Would they have been present in 1940?

Here's the give away shot.



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The cowlings on the Ansons would indicate later marks such as 19 or 21, which could mean it is a post war photo.
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Old 8th Jan 2017, 22:10
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chevvron,

US gallons. Would that it were thus!

Canada has been metric since the 70s. The price in the picture is CAD $ per litre.

ForeFlight shows Canadian prices in CAD $ per litre and US prices in US $ per US gallon. It's actually very annoying when flight planning border crossings and you are trying to find the cheapest Avgas.
Fuel prices are the most valuable feature of ForeFlight, for impoverished light-plane pilots, never mind all that magenta line nonsense!

Here are today's prices - Pitt Meadows is in the top centre.



The prices are colour-coded according to low-medium-high prices.

The $4.54 price at Bellingham is equivalent to CAD $1.59 per litre. The $5.47 price to the south (Skagit Regional - home to a great museum) is CAD $1.91 per litre.

The cowlings on the Ansons would indicate later marks such as 19 or 21, which could mean it is a post war photo.
You, like me, swallowed nvubu's bait - hook, line and sinker!
He posted screen grabs from "Angels One Five", which was made at Kenley in 1952. In retrospect, I did think there was something odd about size and style of the squadron codes.

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Old 8th Jan 2017, 22:14
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They are all screen shots from the film, so they are all definitely post war photos. I see I42 has beaten me to it

What I was wondering was would there have been twin-engined aircraft present at Kenley in 1940, and if so, would this have been a regular occurrence? Or is their presence in the image a continuity issue with the film? I only noticed them in the screenshot and not when the film was playing at normal speed.
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Old 8th Jan 2017, 22:25
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I suspected they might be screen grabs but didn't want to say in case I was wrong.
I dare say the odd Anson or Oxford might have visited in the early 40s, maybe an ATA ferry. Were there ever night fighters based at/detahced to Kenley? In that case the odd Beaufighter might be present.
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Old 9th Jan 2017, 18:02
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Where might this be?
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Old 9th Jan 2017, 18:17
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Somewhere without ground equipment,ie Arctic ,or Antarctica...
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Old 9th Jan 2017, 18:29
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I am sure that I saw this 'photo many years ago & that it is at a Russian Antarctic base. But, I don't know the names of any !
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Old 9th Jan 2017, 18:58
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Antarctica - Yes
Russian Air Base - No
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Old 9th Jan 2017, 19:19
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Same Place
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Old 9th Jan 2017, 19:58
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Could be McMurdo. If so, Open House.

Even if it isn't, the following may be of interest, courtesy of Joe Baugher:

"Lockheed UV-1L Hercules 148321 (MSN 282-3567) ex USAF 59-5925 (later redesignated LC-130F). Assigned to VX-6, 1961 to 31 December 1968. Code JD-18. Assigned to VXE-6, 1 January 1969 to 1971. Code XD-03. Named Phoenix.

After unloading a French traverse team on December 4 1971, the pilot made a JATO take-off to return to McMurdo 750 nautical miles away. At an altitude of about 50 feet, two JATO bottles separated from the left-hand side of the fuselage and struck the inboard engine and propeller. With the gearbox and propeller torn off and the outboard propeller damaged by flying debris, the aircraft was seriously damaged on impact. The ten man crew were uninjured but had to live in survival shelters for 80 hours until the weather improved enough to allow a rescue plane to land. Recovered after being buried by snow for 17 years in Antarctica. Returned to VXE-6 from 1993 to 31 March 1999. In 1996 ownership was transferred from the US Navy to the National Science Foundation.

To AMARC as CF0193 Mar 29, 1999. SOC Apr 2, 1999. Has been restored and now with VX-130. Back to AMARC as 2G0025. SOC Jul 8, 2003. Still on AMARC inventory Jan 15, 2008 as CF0193."
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Dave is correct - Williams Field at McMurdo as part of Deep Freeze 64. The IL18 was one of two aircraft at Williams Field carrying 99 Russians enroute to Mirny.

A couple of other aircraft also involved:






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Long time lurker, may I present this rather easy one, bonus point for naming notable achievement of the subject aeroplane...

[IMG][/IMG]
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Old 10th Jan 2017, 17:23
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I have managed to find the aircraft and the cup, I reckon you are on the button with Manston. That wasn't on my radar at all.
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Old 10th Jan 2017, 17:50
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The Northern grass at RAF Manston in the early 80's. G-BDEN, an SF.260 was campaigned on the handicap air racing circuit for many years by my father and the owner, winning the championship twice and Kings Cup once. This occasion I have been given a lift to commence instructing for a week long Air Cadet camp at 617VGS, the OC of which is in the right hand seat. Happy days.

Quite correct Jenkins on both counts, you have control!
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Old 10th Jan 2017, 20:57
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OK. Similar theme as the last photo, but further back in time.
Enough of your "green and pleasant land"!
Lots of clues here - should make it easy.

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Old 10th Jan 2017, 22:09
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Broken Hill?
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Old 10th Jan 2017, 23:08
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Well done JENKINS. Parafield it is.
Ansett Air Race 1964 (Brisbane to Adelaide).
Parafield was just a big open paddock then.
It looks a bit different now. It's got runways.
Luxury!
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Old 11th Jan 2017, 03:18
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First place I flew a Hawk XP:

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